[quote]34"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW; 36and A MAN?S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD. [/quote] Jesus speaking in Matthew 10:34-36. Caps indicate a quote from the Old Testament as per the NASB translators. Here’s a friendly tip. It takes more than ten seconds and Google to understand any ancient collection of writings including the bible.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
And yet some people can study it with a fervor that borders on debilitating infatuation and still fuck up the big picture.
Many people believe that this is a metaphor for ideological conflict, there is a similar passage elsewhere in the NT in which “sword” is replaced with “division,” blah blah blah. What you have proven is only that the Bible is full of contradiction and nonsense–unsurprising, considering that it was dreamed up and written by men–only men–over the course of a long period of time.
And yet my point stands: Jesus speaks far more often against war than for it. He would not think highly of drone strikes or almost anything else we do with our spare money and time. Anyone who has read (and I’ll add, admired) Jesus’ teachings understands this.
Actually my point stands. You haven’t the first flickering clue what Jesus of Nazareth was about.
I’m just going to go with “Jesus probably wouldn’t vote”.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Actually my point stands. You haven’t the first flickering clue what Jesus of Nazareth was about. [/quote]
I am absolutely sure that you know scripture better than I do. I am also absolutely sure that Jesus advocated peace.
We do not live in a peaceful country–as a superpower, we do not have that luxury. Only the delusional can pretend that the Jesus of the New Testament would support the only country that has used a nuclear weapon against an enemy. That is my point.
Jesus was not addressing nor did he have anything directly to say to countries. It is entirely possible to be a nation at war that is honoring God and a nation at peace that is not. War or peace in themselves say nothing of a nation’s standing before God. Jesus is quite displeased with and does not “support” (to use your term) the United States, but it has nothing to do with Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Once again. Jesus came to Earth to save His people from their sins, not to bring peace between nations. Not in the context of history so far at least to be sure.