So yeah, a poster drops red meat, makes two posts total (including the OP, with the second immediately following), and vanishes. Manure stirring?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
So yeah, a poster drops RED meat, makes two posts total (including the OP, with the second immediately following), and vanishes. Manure stirring?[/quote]
Fixed.
But yes, OP was definitely looking for entertainment with this opening line:
There are a lot of bonkers, looney toon, Christian conservatives on this board and I would love to hear how you reconcile your weird political beliefs with your weird religious beliefs in light of this article:
LOL - lots of guys fell for it like sharks on chum
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
So yeah, a poster drops RED meat, makes two posts total (including the OP, with the second immediately following), and vanishes. Manure stirring?[/quote]
Fixed.
But yes, OP was definitely looking for entertainment with this opening line:
There are a lot of bonkers, looney toon, Christian conservatives on this board and I would love to hear how you reconcile your weird political beliefs with your weird religious beliefs in light of this article:
LOL - lots of guys fell for it like sharks on chum[/quote]
Thanks for the fix!
[quote]Legionary wrote:<<< Have you ran this by any historians or economists? You know, those who have an actual education and understanding on such matters? Those were my thoughts exactly Sweet. People like this vote, run for and hold public office, not to mention raise (indoctrinate) children in this skewed, hateful world viewpoint as well. Its rather disconcerting to think about is it not?[/quote]LOL!!! You run anything by whoever you want. I couldn’t care less what your deluded eggheads say. I can read for myself and my views were predominant at this nation’s founding. I also am not allowed to hate anybody and don’t. Is this all you have? As I told Groo. Ethics and morality are far up the philosophical chain. I’ll give you respect for reading it though. Sincerely. BTW, every word of that document was posted here publicly and I stand by it. In case you think you’ll be exposing me by publicly posting it. You probably don’t think that but just in case.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
The Westminster Confession of Faith of 1646.
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And, what authority do they have to declare doctrine?
[quote]Legionary wrote:
Not against Christianity per se, but against a naive and arrogantly perpetuated view that God takes interest in the affairs of men and nations (Even a “Christian” one like our beloved United States) and actively takes sides in their support or opposition? We are 1 nation on 1 planet in a galaxy of 200 billion stars and a Universe of over 100 billion galaxies and you really think a Universal Creator really cares about such things so ultimately trivial to God-self? But hey, feel free not to respond to my argument and brush it aside saying its been discussed before.[/quote]
This is answered on the first page of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
[quote]Legionary wrote:
Never mind the other self reflective intelligent life forms in the Universe. [/quote]
Can I get some credible documentation of these?
[quote]orion wrote:
Thou shalt not steal
and
thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
Seems to me Jehova is a tad less practical than you are.[/quote]
What does this have to do with anything?
Do you have a grudge against academia? Reading for yourself is hardly sufficient. Do you want to browse over a few issues of Foreign Affairs and take on Henry Kissinger with “It’s cause we turned away from our “Christian” roots!” Let me know how that turns out. No, I posted that excerpt in this thread for easy reading. I don’t know how much rational discussion can be had if you keep falling back on scripture. I could do the same with the Quran for example and my argument would hold as much validity. I would be very interested to hear an argument against homosexuality from your perspective though.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Legionary wrote:
Never mind the other self reflective intelligent life forms in the Universe. [/quote]
Can I get some credible documentation of these?[/quote]
I should have worded that statement more clearly. Considering the scale of the Universe its quite logical to believe that life outside of Earth is not only possible but almost a certainty. Its foolish of us to assume that humanity represents the moral and intellectual apex of evolution. Do you want to argue against the leading theoretical physicists and cosmologists who hold this view?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Thou shalt not steal
and
thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
Seems to me Jehova is a tad less practical than you are.[/quote]
What does this have to do with anything?[/quote]
Nothing, nothing whatsoever.
It quite obviously is not stealing if the state does it for you.
You gotta be practical, ya know?
[quote]Legionary wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Legionary wrote:
Never mind the other self reflective intelligent life forms in the Universe. [/quote]
Can I get some credible documentation of these?[/quote]
I should have worded that statement more clearly. Considering the scale of the Universe its quite logical to believe that life outside of Earth is not only possible but almost a certainty. Its foolish of us to assume that humanity represents the moral and intellectual apex of evolution. Do you want to argue against the leading theoretical physicists and cosmologists who hold this view?
[/quote]
No, I want to see a credible documented source of this. Since you are not a leading theoretical physicist or cosmologist, you just stating something does not make it true.
P.S. I’m inclined to side with our credible local physicist Dr. Matt, until I see some hard-evidence I’ll refrain from making conclusions.
P.P.S. And, being a Catholic I have not even a moral issue with their being life forms outside of Earth, nor self-reflective intelligent life forms at that. Only a Fundy like Tirib would have an issue with that.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Thou shalt not steal
and
thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
Seems to me Jehova is a tad less practical than you are.[/quote]
What does this have to do with anything?[/quote]
Nothing, nothing whatsoever.
It quite obviously is not stealing if the state does it for you.
You gotta be practical, ya know?
[/quote]
Ok.
[quote]Legionary wrote:<<< I don’t know how much rational discussion can be had if you keep falling back on scripture. >>>[/quote]You keep falling back on my scripture and my God who is revealed therein as well. You have no choice. It’s what you are. Your refusal to acknowledge that is a symptom of death in sin having been spawned from Adam in whom all of us sinned. Including me. No offense to you man. All my answers to all your points are in those threads and the doc I linked you to. Oh yeah. The very last place I would EVER go for answers to ultimate questions would be academia. I haven’t had a 2+2=4 exchange (bromide to use Thunderbolt’s word lol) in a little while. If you go to the epistemology thread and tell me if and why you are CERTAIN that 2+2=4 I’ll tell you why you are and aren’t at the same time though you will eventually swear that you aren’t. If not? That’s fine too. I have all kinds of other stuff to do. Again: [quote] Man has throughout his history, by virtue of the remaining though sinfully broken image of God, been so absolutely RIGHT about so very much of what he’s observed and published. While, due to this brokenness in sin, being so ABSOLUTELY wrong about how and why he’s right about it. This has led him to utterly corrupt and perverse conclusions even from the things he’s right about. [/quote] On your arrogant self exalting basis of autonomous godless reason you have proof of literally NOTHING my friend. Academia or not. Not even 2+2 equaling 4. I’ll prove it to ya.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
The Westminster Confession of Faith of 1646. [/quote]And, what authority do they have to declare doctrine?[/quote]See the Romans 2 thread Chris.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
“The very last place I would EVER go for answers to ultimate questions would be academia.”
That’s obvious when one takes into account how an otherwise intelligent man like yourself insists on maintaining such a close minded and fearful view of the world that should have remained in the bronze age.
“On your arrogant self exalting basis of autonomous godless reason”
Who said I was an atheist? I believe in God through a foundation of reason, personal experience and the Nature of the Universe, rather than an inherently flawed foundation of divine revelations and fabricated holy books. Revealed religions are nothing more than a way primitive cultures explained the world around them and over time became a way for rulers to gain power and control a subject populace by dangling fantastic illusions in front of their eyes. Because of fundamentalist individuals like yourself (But not all theists), religion is often times a formidable obstacle in humanity’s pursuit of moral and intellectual progress.
Of course. =] I’ll ask again. I haven’t had a 2+2=4 exchange (bromide to use Thunderbolt’s word lol) in a little while. If you go to the epistemology thread and tell me if and why you are CERTAIN that 2+2=4 I’ll tell you why you are and aren’t at the same time though you will eventually swear that you aren’t. If not? That’s fine too. I have all kinds of other stuff to do. On your arrogant self exalting basis of autonomous godless reason you have proof of literally NOTHING my friend. Academia or not. Not even 2+2 equaling 4. I’ll prove it to ya. There are no such actual people as atheists and the god you believe in is created by you in your own image. Your use of reason cannot but be godless and autonomous. That doesn’t make you an especially bad guy. Everybody has this problem. It’s called sin. If you want to continue please post why your are certain that 2+2=4 in the epistemology thread. Unless you’re not certain. Then my work is done before we’ve started.
Brother Joab. I have not forgotten about your rather formidable challenge.
Yes, because I’m a Conservative Christian, I’m a bonkers looney toon. This makes total sense.
CS
[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:Yes, because I’m a Conservative Christian, I’m a bonkers looney toon. This makes total sense.
CS[/quote]What are you referring to?
“Resist not evil, but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.”
That, along with “bless them that curse you” and so on, puts Jesus not just against Democrats and Republicans but against the United States of America and almost every other country on the planet.