Armidex While on T Cypionate

I’ve been taking 100mg TCypoinate for past few months and erection and drive issues are about 75% or so better. I sleep better too.

The recent Estrogen test I took showed Estradiol about 15 pts above the normal range. And they also gave me another Total Estrogens test. The total estrogen test went up another 30 points from the norm. I have not been taking Armidex as a few guys here recommended I leave estrogen alone.

My concern: I have some gyno. It bugs me. Every so often my nipples feel sensitive and that may fade over the course of a few weeks. Comes and goes.

Last week I decided to take a .5mg Armidex to experiment and see what if anything I would feel. The result was the day after and also a few days after I took it I noticed that my emotional self felt more stable. I felt more emotionally even and less prone to feel emotional about a sensitive topic that might otherwise make me feel upset…. Less bitchy upstairs…

Thought? Should I take Armidex once a week as one dr suggested? Continue to leave it alone?

Ill never touch the stuff and I take twice what you take. But if you think it helps go ahead. Personally I think your problem is that you’re not taking enough Test to offset your E ratio. Got a screen shot of complete labs?
1mg a week is too much. Are you overweight?

Hello, My T is at 1400, now my E2 went up to 55, so I was taking .25 on Friday mornings, I added another .25 on Tuesday mornings. I was taking my 60mg T-Cy. every 4 days two months ago I decided to do it every 3 days, wow I feel so much better. This move accounted for my E2 spike. I will tell you that at T1400, I decided to join Life Fitness, I’ve been there for 3 weeks now. I’m shocked at how easy muscle is appearing all over my torso. My “Covid belly” all gone. I saw my Urologist this morning and he said let me see your junk. He busted out laughing and said, man you have shrunk quite a bit. I said yes but its worth it for my overall health. My balls lost at least a third. My willy looks like a kid, however when it gets up its looks normal to me. I have to take a small amount of Cabergoline on Mondays and Thursdays for Pituitary tumor’s, they ravaged me until they were discovered. Cabergoline cuts off their life supply. (Prolactin) In September I’ll get another MRI. A few hormones are showing up again and my adrenal system managed to wake up. I believe Testosterone is my life saver. I went through decades of sensitive tits and dozens of clueless Doctors. I know there are many who hate Armidex, however use the least amount and work up as needed, its the safest way in combating high E2 & it’s bad side affects.



There are my recent labs. As far as weight. I gained 17pds in the covid year. I’ve lost 15 of them. I just started lifting weights again. I don’t compete or anything like that. Just for strength and health.

Here’s the estradiol:

As stated in my earlier post, Your Test levels are low. You could benefit from double the free T. Im sure he tested you at trough, and those are some weak numbers. Bottomline is dont mess with your E levels just yet. T levels have to come up to at least 600-800 at trough or a nice constant 1000-1200 for you to feel the benefits of being on TRT. Those labs tell me that 100mg/ wk is essentially replicating Low T. Dont touch an AI. As for @bluesurf I dont know why he brought his dick into this. The last thing I would want to hear is “TRT is great but it shrunk my dick”. So was it the T or the Arimidex? It doesnt matter because this is not a thing. Anyway dont use arimidex just yet, get your Androgen levels up and all things manly should start to become more apparent.

Ok, will do. Thanks.

I’d 100% start taking the adex… You’re body clearly aromatizes test to estrogen easily. Also, as you said, you feel better when you take it.

Wrong. He needs to offset his weak Test levels by upping his test levels. What is this? LowerEstrogenNation?

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Yeah, gotta think about this. I don’t wanna end up having ups and downs as one guy I know put it. Then again, another gig at the gym told me he lets his e2 go as high as it wants to while on T and yeah he’s got some gyno but he’s a rock so he can sport it, lol. I’m a guy who looks like he works out but I’m not a muscle head.

Gonna agree here. You don’t need the AI right now, you need more test

I bite my thumb at you Sir. Bad advice.

The amount of misinformation you’re getting is confusing you. High E does not give you gyno, if your T is up. Anyway, at this point do what your doc says.
If you wish to have Test levels sub 500 your E levels will rule you. Once you run higher T levels, E simply doesnt matter. Ciao

The Dr I have now says she’s willing to go into the 800’s if need be with the ref range being 1000 or so. If I need it that high. So I’m encouraged. Definitely going to keep the T going up at least 500-600 and then re-access from there.

Damn… a clueless doc is bad, but a clueless female doc is worse. She will never understand what its like to be a man, she can only do what she thinks is right. Ok… if 800TT is her goal, I expect you will feel better, but I also expect you to break from her care once you’re none the wiser

Have to agree with @middleages, first step is to raise Test levels. I’d aim for the top of the normal range for Free T, inject at least 2x/week and go from there after 8-10 weeks on the same protocol.

Also change doctors immediately or go with a telemedicine clinic. You need to have more self-respect than to feel grattitude for a female doctor “allowing” you to go up to 800ng/dL TT.

As you do more of your own research you’ll come to see doctors less and less as the all-knowing authorities they portray themselves to be, and more and more as the barely above average IQ disinterested people they really are, save for a few rare exceptions.

The reason I went with this clinic is I get testosterone Cypoinate which my insurance pays for and I only pay the dr $135 every 3 months. I found this place in SF.

And I totally agree about a female dr. The last endocrine guy sent me to a urologist who said my number was in the norm and that he doesn’t believe in creating more Mark McGuire’s and Barry Bonds, so would I be interested in a penis pump. I felt like committing a felony right then but instead just walked out. Lol. Dr’s can be clueless fucking assholes.

Higher T doesnt transform anyone into meatheads. You still have put in the work and eat loads if good food. Healthy T levels are only a catalyst for many of the positives. Well, improve tour health and then make better decisions for your health.