Adex dose depends on ones T and E levels. A starting/trial typical dose for someone not on gear is .5mg/week.
Get serum E2 lab work. If Quest, must be the ultra high sensitivity as the regular dose not report below 32pg/ml. Start a trial dose, then check E2 in 3 weeks. If target is 22 and labs shows 28, scale dose up by 28/22.
One can scale up staring dose by weight and amount of fat with labs used to refine dose.
Getting E2=22pg/ml would be a good goal.
Some are adex over responders who will tank E2 on normal doses. They need to use 1/8th - 1/4th of typical doses. These guys will suddenly feel like crap and bye bye libido until things wash out.
Most do not need this. If fat gain or patterns seem inappropriate, then perhaps. If gyno prone at all, may be needed long term.
Some will benefit from low dose adex long term. More so the older guys who should be studying these things on the over 53 lifter formum where TRT is covered quite well. Lean virile guys should not bother.
thanks guys seems like the sensible thing to do, but why not. even in the medical books the side affects are not listed as that bad is this right, it seems irrisponsible if it is’nt.
I get plenty of protein, good sleep (mostly)
,good workouts, avoid xeno-e’s (mostly). (non-steroid or pro-hormone) androgen boosters seemed like the only other thing I can do at the moment.
[quote]theBigEnglishman wrote:
thanks guys seems like the sensible thing to do, but why not. even in the medical books the side affects are not listed as that bad is this right, it seems irrisponsible if it is’nt.[/quote]
picture your endocrine system as a carton of eggs.
if you choose to take anything that plays with the endocrine system it would be like JUGGLING your eggs.
You might turn out fine or you might drop your eggs and let them crack and splatter all over the floor.
Your natural test is so freaking high that you can get ‘steroid like’ gains if you just learn how to eat and train.
My avatar is me naturally this past July at 20. I know how to eat and train. Get my point?
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
theBigEnglishman wrote:
thanks guys seems like the sensible thing to do, but why not. even in the medical books the side affects are not listed as that bad is this right, it seems irrisponsible if it is’nt.
picture your endocrine system as a carton of eggs.
if you choose to take anything that plays with the endocrine system it would be like JUGGLING your eggs.
You might turn out fine or you might drop your eggs and let them crack and splatter all over the floor.
Your natural test is so freaking high that you can get ‘steroid like’ gains if you just learn how to eat and train.
My avatar is me naturally this past July at 20. I know how to eat and train. Get my point?
DG[/quote]
You just love throwing in little sidebars about your avatar, don’t you?? Lol You just have to rub it in… hahah
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
theBigEnglishman wrote:
thanks guys seems like the sensible thing to do, but why not. even in the medical books the side affects are not listed as that bad is this right, it seems irrisponsible if it is’nt.
picture your endocrine system as a carton of eggs.
if you choose to take anything that plays with the endocrine system it would be like JUGGLING your eggs.
You might turn out fine or you might drop your eggs and let them crack and splatter all over the floor.
Your natural test is so freaking high that you can get ‘steroid like’ gains if you just learn how to eat and train.
My avatar is me naturally this past July at 20. I know how to eat and train. Get my point?
DG
You just love throwing in little sidebars about your avatar, don’t you?? Lol You just have to rub it in… hahah[/quote]
I’m actually some fat kid. I just found that pic cause I like the physique lol
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
theBigEnglishman wrote:
thanks guys seems like the sensible thing to do, but why not. even in the medical books the side affects are not listed as that bad is this right, it seems irrisponsible if it is’nt.
picture your endocrine system as a carton of eggs.
if you choose to take anything that plays with the endocrine system it would be like JUGGLING your eggs.
You might turn out fine or you might drop your eggs and let them crack and splatter all over the floor.
Your natural test is so freaking high that you can get ‘steroid like’ gains if you just learn how to eat and train.
My avatar is me naturally this past July at 20. I know how to eat and train. Get my point?
DG
You just love throwing in little sidebars about your avatar, don’t you?? Lol You just have to rub it in… hahah[/quote]
I know huh,
Look at me Im ripped,I know how to train Blah blah
oh, and how about that picture he posted with the girls, “look at me I get more ass than you too,because of my hot ripped oily abs”.
hahaha but he is correct though,if you want to mess with your hormones,please atleast get tests done to see where you stand that way you can tweak them as the NEED.
if its not broke dont go messing with it,you have plenty of time to do that later.
have to figure a risk to reward assesment.
is the risk worth taking for the benefit.
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Nich wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
DONT HATE! haha lol jk
Actually I haven’t gotten much ass the bigger I get :S
I got more ass looking like an abercrombie model with little bitch arms lol
DG
thats funny cause the bigger I get the more thick hispanic ass I get.
Well dang! I guess I’m just lookin in the wrong spots…lol
DG[/quote]
stop messin with the chickens gotta get the beef on them bones…
LOL, I was shocked this red head was hittin on me the other day
I let that fly right over my head cause i was like wait huh… what you want my number for?
Im gonna see her tomarrow,hopefully I dont catch gingervitis
You don’t know what you’re talking about… just so there is some factual info here for people… Arimidex increases test and lowers est very successfully. Here’s one of many studies out there that proves it → http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2003-031467 I know this post is from '08, but it’s common sense. If you lower your estr by using a drug, your body is going to compensate and produce more LH, which is going to give you more T. The trick is getting the right dosage to get the greatest increase in T while maintaining a healthy estr level… not easy.
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