Can you eat fruit?
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That doesnât come anywhere near showing or proving what you said.
And among the many criticisms of the study, itâs population was elderly convalescents and institutionalized mental patients.
How much of an analogy is there with them?
Our bodies, cholesterol levels, and what we do with it does change with age.
So youâre taking a population that for one reason or another is already institutionalized and close to death, changing the fat source in their diet and extrapolating that to mean that it proves or supports the efficacy of meat over vegetables?
Is that really science?
Noooo! 
The article is vague and overly general. Iâm not sure the direct connection between talking about Neanderthals and human ancestors.
Northern humans ate little to no plants for at least large portions of the year by simple rational logic. Not to mention the remains of early Europeans have been carbon/nitrogen isotope tested for plant proteins and they apparently have all come up negative. Meaning their bodies contained 0 (or undetectable) amounts of plant proteins. Thatâs the most direct evidence Iâve seen (far more direct that looking at mouth bacteria of our extinct cousins). European ancestors test as more carnivorous than wolves.
Well, double blind randomised controlled trials (plural, I cited 3 above) tend to be gold standard when it comes to evidence. The merit of these particular ones included study size and duration. Of course, everyone still has the choice to ignore the conclusions.
And even then it doesnât come anywhere near supporting your statement.
That thing might as well be The Colorado Experiment of dietary science.
You cannot look at human teeth the way you do other animals. We evolved with tools and cooking. Ever notice the shape of an arrow head or stone knife? The more telling thing to look at is the digestive tract. The size of our gut, the PH, the structure, are all like other carnivores. Our guts are not built to derive many calories out of plants. I agree that we evolved into meat, and we existed that way for millions of years. Iâm not sure how that changes anything. We lost most of our colon and in doing so lost most of our ability to extract calories from plants, and we did that while growing enormous calorically expensive brains.
We evolved into a carnivore diet with some retention of plant tolerance as a survival mechanism in lean times. Youâre last statement isnât to the point of the OP. Yes, you can live without animals. That would be helpful to know if the OP had asked the opposite question.
Honestly mate, I donât believe I can engage intellectually with you.
Why is it that in these discussions you canât look at something like teeth but you can look at the intestines?
What was this populations average age?
Like 35 or so?
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You arenât. Everything you espouse is belief. Very little to do with actual science.
Not made up. Thatâs from a epidemiology study somewhere. And I think that the rate of mental health drug consumption is about double the average rate for vegans. To be clear, I personally donât put much weight into that type of data, but the person I was responding to did. It is as likely that people with mental health issue tend toward veganism as that veganism causes mental health issues. Although there were some studies going around recently showing brain shrinkage with people who switch to a vegan diet.
I literally explained that in my next statement that you cut off.
This nonsense again. Their health spans were as good as ours if not better. If you factor in child deaths and traumatic injury and lack of any medical care, like 35. But thatâs 2 5 year old getting bit by snakes and 2 70 year olds.
As an aside, the other side of this equation isnât often talked about, but is misleading too. Run the numbers for average life span today with abortion factored in. Itâs easy to up those average numbers if you kill all the genetic defects and just donât count it in your data.
Thanks man. Thatâs really good.
Whatever your ideology tells you man.
There is strong evidence that certain amino acids lacking in plant material are important for the synthesis of certain neurotransmitters important to mental healt.
There is also anthropological evidence that populations, on the whole, got less healthy after going sedentary
HOWEVER, there is also very strong evidence that plant materials contain high amounts of essential nutrients as well as beneficial compounds found to combat disease as well as the benefit of low caloric density.
In addition, it doesnât make evolutionarily sense for humans to evolve to NOT be able to consume a nutrient dense food source. There is even evidence of paleolithic societies that ate grains
It is true that many of these essential nutrients can be found in offal, but the chances that most ppl would want to consume offal is quite low.
To be clear, I eat quite low carb (although high veggies) but itâs not so much for health as for personal preference
I think ânutrientsâ is a bit strong, but yeah, certainly pants can be situationally medicinal.
Just so we are clear, this is a huge negative trait of plants, until only like 50 or 60 years ago.
You are kinda mixing up issues here. When talking about evolution, what people want to do now doesnât matter. The fact that people in the last 100 years have lost their taste for organs doesnât changed that we evolved eating them for the previous 3 or 4 million. Even as the most prized food source. Further, with the organs, plant nutrition is largely superfluous.
Youâre the one literally saying âLook only at this. Donât look at that!â
Not me.
Iâm saying Look at Everything.
Why the intestines only and not teeth?
Because of edged tools?
Bullshit! Period. Plain and simple. Edged tools were used to take the animals apart.
Our teeth are used to eat them.
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I donât understand what the issue is. Why canât we have been evolved to eat BOTH plant AND animalsâŠ
Itâs not like being an omnivore makes us unique in the animal kingdom. If anything it seems like a huge advantage to me
It violates the rules of the caveman larper club.
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Which ones? That was my question, am I missing out on anything I can not get from other food.
How is low caloric density a benefit?