Are Nolvadex and Clomid Together Too Much for PCT?

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For a Test/Deca cycle, is it too much for PCT to take both nolvadex and clomid ?

The plan is:
Test 600mg/wk for 12 weeks and deca 300mg/wk for 8-10 weeks.

PCT starts at week 14:
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 20/20/20/20

Will also run HCG @250iu twice a week for weeks 2-12 and have arimidex on hand, if necessary 0.5 eod

Also, will it be too low to bump test down to 400mg ?

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Many people take both. I don’t see it as a necessity. Personal choice. Nolva is more well tolerated with less side effects etc. Typical dosing of Nolva solo is 40/40/20/20.

Arimadex at .5eod is way too much for most men. That kind of dose will crash E2. Half that twice a week is a typical starting dose and can be adjusted from there.

Bumping the test down is a personal choice. Depending on your history with it, 400mg can still provide adequate results. Have you ran Deca in the past with no issue? If so, I would think this is ok. If not, you may want to consider a DHT steroid to help with DHN displacement in tissues.

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Thanks.
Yes I previously ran Test/Deca at higher doses and got great results but it took me several months after cycle to fully recover from Deca, so I wanted to to try lower dose and shorter deca this time.
I always read that test should be higher than deca and wondering if 400mg Test with 300mg Deca is still a good ratio

I don’t have enough Nolva for to start with 40mg, I hope using it with Clomid would be enough

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Can you elaborate as to what you were recovering from? Do you mean erectile / libido issues?

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yup, libido

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Hmm… I’ve had the same issues. I personally won’t run it again without using Mast along side it. There are several theories aside from typical E2 issues regarding Deca and ED. They include excess prolactin, neurological, and DHN displacement. I personally feel that prolactin is rarely the cause and that is more associated with neurological issues and DHN. The DHN can be combatted at the receptors be making sure you have adequate DHT via either more Test or something like Mast. You may want to consider this before lowering test dose especially if you don’t have access to something like mast.