Question. Why are you not using cream? Does cream also increase hematocrit and hemoglobin?
My wife is breastfeeding our 8 week old son. I had concerns about transference to her. Once she stops breastfeeding I will definitely be making that change. All forms of exogenous testosterone can raise hematocrit and hemoglobin. However, the cream has a better effect on lipids then injections do. It also causes a much higher boost in DHT compared to injections.
If I start TRT I understood I can legally order the cream from Greece while for injections cypionate is only available on the black market in the area while the legally available esters nebido and omnadren suck(correct me if Im wrong). And Im a bit discomfortable buying things from the black market even though I have a very trusted AAS dealer
If you can get a pharmaceutical grade 200mg/mL versabase cream using micronized testosterone then by all means gives that a try if you’re in Europe. Steven Devos from our group is in Belgium and has been using the cream for awhile though I’m not sure where he gets it from. Quite sure it’s a prescription.
Yes and also somebody in the group said he gets it from a Greek pharmacist. When decide to start TRT i will research that.
Why it is necessary the cream to be applied twice a day, isnt once a day enough? This seems a little uncomfortable to me
Thee are lots of guys that do it once a day. The cream has a very short half life and the guys who have done it morning and night have had better results than once a day. Once a day is still fine. Twice is better.
Hey if you dont mind me asking, is there quite a big difference between the cream and the gel as far as absorption? I know I can get androgel but I declined it because the absorption isn’t all that good in some people, and some have had not so good luck with it.
Androgel is at the absolute bottom of the ladder for TRT. Avoid it at all costs.
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Ok will do. So the cream you are referring to what is it called? I will check with my clinic here in Edmonton and see if they prescribe it.
It’s compounded… Doesn’t have a name… As I described above… 20% concentration
Ok thanks I forgot you mentioned that, I will have to go over these posts again.
Thanks again.
So im experiencing some unwanted symptoms again, this is how it started before i got the headaches. Im feeling overwhelming tired lots of anxiety been feeling panicky, lots of brain fog like i cant think clearly blood pressure is up and down but i think its from anxiety not quite sure.
is this due to high estrogen? should i take arimidex?
Doesnt night application disturb the sleeping? Dont you feel a rush of energy in the next hours after applying the cream?
Has to be estrogen. took a quarter tab of Arimidex and starting to feel better symptoms are starting to lighten up now.
If I continue I guess I’ll have to take an estrogen blocker. How would you guys recommend taking one if I inject once a day?
Take as little as possible, and periodically stop altogether. After a while you will adjust and be fine without it, it’s just a temporary adjustment period most likely, it happens in spite of what others might opine about it.
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Yeah I can see that now.
Honestly I cant believe how much estrogen can mess a guy up, I was contemplating heading to the hospital because my heart wouldnt slow down, face and neck were all red this morning, completely fricken exhausted and tired felt like I could fall into a comba. Not to mention middle of chest is sore to the touch for no good reason.
Makes it really tough to want to continue, others think I’d be an idiot to keep taking it… i duno they might be right.
What works for one might not for another.
No worries. Every body is different, what freaks yours out is different than what freaks out someone else’s. Slow and steady wins the race, your body is used to jacked up levels, now it has to get used to different levels.
I completely agree. My anxiety was also getting the best of me, however I couldn’t really function at work do to my cognition being impaired so I took the rest of the day off. If people get the same symptoms regardless of it freaking them out, I don’t think it’s very good for your body either way.
I am going to give this a solid chance still, I am determined! I have felt some of the benefits already so I know if I can make it through the shit times I can reap all the benefits of trt, Hopefully anyways, and without any damage done to my body. Lol.
Thanks for the support!
Hey I was just curious of what you ment by my body being used to having jacked up levels?
You’ve been living with painfully low levels for a long time, That happened gradually and your body adjusted slowly as it happened. Now you are thrusting normal levels on it. It’s not used to that, it can take a while to adjust.