[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
I think that if women on the whole had a natural apptitude for innovation, cultures that allowed women more freedom to explore and invent would have dominated the planet long ago.
Uh, does this need to be stated? Really?
I can see you didn’t go to college. According to the Feminists who dominate every university campus, all of women’s short comings, from the lack of women in the top ranks of physicists, to their inability to read a map are the fault of the patriarchy, not of biology. So yes, sometimes common sense needs to be injected into the conversation.
Yes, all of that pesky science and those facts.
Do you also believe that African slaves in America during the 17th and 18th centuries did not achieve similarly to white Americans due primarily to some biological inferiority?
Do you believe that European Jews had a shorter average lifespan than Americans during the early 1940’s due to some biological disadvantage?
I can only hope that you two don’t vote with the intelligence with which you post.[/quote]
Are you really trying to claim that I am a racist or a holocaust denier because my opinion overlaps with PRCal’s somewhat? Get your head out of your ass and keep straight who you are talking to.
Read my statement at the top again and try to understand what it means. Until the last few hundred years human beings have always lived on the edge of starvation. Until the last thousand years if you lost a war, your tribe was exterminated. If women had the same aptitude for innovation as men, that power would have been harnessed hundreds of thousands of years ago, because survival made it absolutely necessary to use every resource at your disposal. Women weren’t excluded because of the mean old patriarchy. Some tribes and cultures held women down because of some biological jealousy, but if women were great inventors, the tribes/cultures/civilizations that took advantage of women’s talents would have dominated the ones that didn’t. Do you think cultures that refused to tap into 50% of their intellectual resources would have always dominated those cultures that used every mind at it’s disposal? Of course not. The proto-feminist cultures would have swept the board.
I’ve never said women don’t have the capacity to do science or math. I have said and will continue to say that I don’t think that on the whole women and men will ever be equal in this regard. There will be many women who rise to the top in math and science, and it is an injustice and a waste that many women who would have done well in these fields in the past were excluded because of their gender. But their numbers will never be equal to men. Our hormones shape the way our brains work, and men have more testosterone than women and women have more estrogen than men. Some women have a lot more testosterone than average, more than the average man, but they are the exception, not the rule.
Feminists claim that gender is a social construct, but that is a lie. It is biology. Specific gender roles may be assigned by culture, but some gender roles are pretty much universal, which shows that they are more deeply embedded than culture. Political correctness, and trying to cram women into jobs that are traditionally masculine is an injustice and a waste. Remove barriers, and let people rise on their own merits. But feminist laws, like Title 9, that try to enforce an arbitrary equality are an injustice.