[quote]pushharder wrote:
Ha! My life is definitely an easy one. We talk about it all the time. Huge turn-on.
So please continue to forward your congratulations.
By the way, before you jump to a conclusion that is void of facts, let me assure you I am not as uncommon as you may believe. The jealousy issues you mention are much more prevalent with you young squirts. Trust me.
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Were you jealous of your partners’ sexual pasts when you were younger, then? If so, when did it change?
okay i am going to look up the translation stuff later. but i dont think the hebrews said “penetrated” in the bible and the english changed it to “know”. and still what the english said is important too. somebody said it, i am talking about that guy.
anyway in history virginity has been important for women, i came up with my theory. and you are free to come up with your own. i know on a site like T-Nation we got some bad ass mother fuckers and you dont get jealous, and thats great for you. just keep being awesome. if you dont mind your wife thinking about other guys when you are with them then that is fine.
if you have a better theory of why virginity mattered than men getting jealous then go ahead and share.
when somebody cheats on their lover they go whining about trust. its not trust, you dont have time to worry about that. it is jealousy. even if you know the tryst did not mean anything and it will never happen again it messes with your head. the thought of being compared to somebody else. your wife now “knows” someone. the time when she learned it doesnt matter, you dont want that knowledge to be in her head.
[quote]eremesu wrote:
if you dont mind your wife thinking about other guys when you are with them then that is fine.
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This is so funny I shouldn’t even laugh.
Why would their wives think about other men when their hubbies are around? What does it have to do with the number of men the wives slept with prior the marriage? Are you suggesting that since the wives had sex with other men before their husbands, they automatically think about their ex all the time? Doesn’t it apply to men too? Insecure much? LMFAO!!
Also if you think a virgin will only think about YOU ( if we follow your train of thought), and no one else because no peen ever penetrated her, then you’re in a big shock, buddy. You’d surely be the first to use your cock in her but a guy must have already fingered her pussy or her asshole or kissed her better than you do. Or given her anal. And she’ll think about him when with you, all right? Now what do you say about that? Does it still make you feel any safer?
Don’t think virgins are as clean and innocent as you think nowadays. You may as well fuck a prepubescent while you’re at it.
[quote]eremesu wrote:
when somebody cheats on their lover they go whining about trust. its not trust, you dont have time to worry about that. it is jealousy. even if you know the tryst did not mean anything and it will never happen again it messes with your head. the thought of being compared to somebody else. your wife now “knows” someone. the time when she learned it doesnt matter, you dont want that knowledge to be in her head. [/quote]
You know, most men don’t marry virgins and we somehow manage to cope.
By the way, I had a conversation with my wife about her past lovers just this morning. We happened to be finished with what we were doing but my cock was still inside her at the time. I didn’t have the slightest twinge of jealousy about anything she said. Another time I had just finished fucking her with two fingers while sucking on her clit. I asked if she had fantasized about getting fucked and licked at the same time. She said yes. I asked if she imagined me fucking her while someone else was mowing. At the time I was hoping maybe she had me and a girl working on her in her head. She said “No I imagined you were licking me while someone else was fucking me”! Haha, but no, not one bit of jealousy.
[quote]eremesu wrote:
we can still see the way people thought when the bible was translated and the translators tried their best to get the orginal meaning most of the time. i did say the bible, not the dead sea scrolls. i know it changed. i did not do alot of research on all the versions of the bible, but you guys heard “known” before
if you think i am delusional then just ask your girlfriend to tell you about the men she screwed. if you arent jealous then congratulations, your life will be an easy one.
women like men with a lot of sexual experience, and men dont. why would they? blowjobs arent that complicated.
virginty has been valuable throughout history. it must be for a reason. i just came up with my own theory for why[/quote]
I think you have also made a mistake in assuming that the Bible (and thus Western culture) permeates us all in an all-encompassing manner. When you remove monogamy from the equation, this breaks down. Plural marriages, wife swaps, etc. have existed throughout history and continue to do so.
Gee, I guess I fall into the delusional category too. Once upon a time, I got jealous, then I really stopped giving a shit. Some would say I’m a narcissist, so perhaps that factors into the equation. I tend to figure that even if some other guy is better in the sack (which he probably isn’t), there’s a 99.9% chance that I’m a better total package anyway. It sure beats fretting that I’m inferior to this unknown guy. And the proof lies with the fact that she’s with you, not him.
I don’t think the reason has anything to do with the Bible. Rather, the Biblical reason has to do with a scientific one. Prior to the age of birth control, a promiscuous woman means a greater likelihood of wasting your time on somebody else’s kid. It would not be advantageous for your own genetic propagation to do this. Since the advent of effective birth control in the developed world, sexual mores have been changing. The way I see it, more liberal sexual mores = more sex for everyone. Isn’t that a win-win situation worth shelving your jealousy for?
I don’t know if there’s any point in going back to the OP’s topic…but I have to agree that the over-use of the term ‘pedophile’ is getting a bit insane in modern American culture. Just a few weeks back, my attention was drawn to some article on Yahoo news (or msn, I dunno) about one of the Olsen twins and her new boyfriend, a 41 year old French multi-millionaire.
Now, the guy isn’t a very ‘pretty’ 41 year old (which I think was a BIG part of the public’s negative reaction), but whatever the situation, at least 10% of the comments tossed around the ‘pedo’ accusation.
We’re talking about a 41 year old dating a woman in her mid-to-late 20’s, a woman who also happens to be an independently wealthy businessperson (i.e., not exactly some innocent, sheltered child by any definition of the term). Yet for whatever reasons – maybe it’s because she’s girlish in her physique, maybe because so many of us associate her with the monkey-face Full House baby role, it’s easy for some folks to toss out the pedo thing.
If that’s not annoying enough, if anyone were to DARE suggest that this sort of talk was a gross misuse of the term ‘pedophile,’ well the natural response by said people would be along the lines of, ‘why are you being defensive? You must be a pedo too!’
Yeah, it was like trying to have a conversation with a retarded child hopped up on chocolate and energy drinks.
So, to the OP – you’re never going to get through to this type of moron. Just face the inevitable fact that this is just this season’s fashionable idiocy, where half of the population gives themselves permission to turn off even the pretense of critical thinking. Don’t sweat it, someone will start another war soon, at which time people will be too busy expressing their rage at the unforgiveable hostility and horrid inhumanity of…whomever it’ll be – maybe Canada or Finland…to worry about this particular topic.
[quote]eremesu wrote:
we can still see the way people thought when the bible was translated and the translators tried their best to get the orginal meaning most of the time. i did say the bible, not the dead sea scrolls. i know it changed. i did not do alot of research on all the versions of the bible, but you guys heard “known” before
if you think i am delusional then just ask your girlfriend to tell you about the men she screwed. if you arent jealous then congratulations, your life will be an easy one.
women like men with a lot of sexual experience, and men dont. why would they? blowjobs arent that complicated.
virginty has been valuable throughout history. it must be for a reason. i just came up with my own theory for why[/quote]
Seriously?
Have you ever had a blowjob from a chick who has only sucked one or two dicks her whole life?
I want my chick with a history of cock pleasing…all it means is i dont have to deal with giggles and “oh ive never done that before it hurts no stop” for months until i train her to take a pounding…
What i do like is when im feeling “out there” and my woman can match or beat me because she has already been down that road.
JEALOUSY? NO WAY
[quote]on edge wrote:
You know, most men don’t marry virgins and we somehow manage to cope.
By the way, I had a conversation with my wife about her past lovers just this morning. We happened to be finished with what we were doing but my cock was still inside her at the time. I didn’t have the slightest twinge of jealousy about anything she said. Another time I had just finished fucking her with two fingers while sucking on her clit. I asked if she had fantasized about getting fucked and licked at the same time. She said yes. I asked if she imagined me fucking her while someone else was mowing. At the time I was hoping maybe she had me and a girl working on her in her head. She said “No I imagined you were licking me while someone else was fucking me”! Haha, but no, not one bit of jealousy.
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OMG!!! What have you done? Have you just described how good you fuck your wife? Did you just tell us how crazy mad skilled you are at sex? What? Aren’t you a retarded kiddie who ain’t getting it at home???
OMG!!! Please call the ANTI SAMA POLICE RIGHT NOW!! CALL THEM, PLEASE! SHIT’S GOING DOWN RIGHT NOW!!
LOL!
I JUST LOVE reading the way those fuckers MOAN and WHINE and CRY like LITTLE BITCHES with SAND FILLED VAGINAS.
FUCK’ EM.
Please, Edge and PushHarder, please tell us some more!!!
Tnxkbai.
[quote]eremesu wrote:
if you think i am delusional then just ask your girlfriend to tell you about the men she screwed. if you arent jealous then congratulations, your life will be an easy one.
women like men with a lot of sexual experience, and men dont. why would they? blowjobs arent that complicated.
virginty has been valuable throughout history. it must be for a reason. i just came up with my own theory for why[/quote]
Blowjobs aren’t that complicated, really? REALLY? So you think is that easy to suck a fucking cock? I guess, there must be some guys out there who instantly cum as soon as their dick touches a woman’s mouth, lmfao!
I also forgot to mention that virgins love giving blowjobs too. You know, when they want to keep their pussies safe from the cock, the only option left is to have it in their mouth. Will you trust your virgin girlfriend if she told you she blew 2 or 3 different guys before you? She hasn’t been penetrated but she had been with others. Would you still see her as pure?
Would you still see her as pure if she’d been penetrated by fingers? Or a dildo?
Did I not post in here earlier this morning asking Push if he can receive PMs? But it would seem not. Perhaps this one will post.
I think this topic would have been good if someone else started the thread.
Bottom line is that the age of consent at the start of this country was 12 years old. The average man would biologically be attracted to a sexually mature woman. The true age is a social criteria that changes depending on the outlook of society.
No, there is no reason why a biologically healthy adult male would not be sexually attracted to an attractive biologically mature woman.
It is simply “politically correct” to pretend you can control your penis like that.
[quote]eremesu wrote:
one thing that makes girls more attractive than women is that they are less experienced and thus less likely to have seen much wang. i think most men would prefer a virgin(dont argue with me, argue with history). i know it is unfair but i dont see alot of women making men out of virgin boys so dont complain.
if you are lucky enough to be a narcissist and walk around in a delusional bubble of awesomeness then you probably dont care how many dicks your girlfriend has seen. but i think it eats away at a normal man’s psyche. think about the bible. when a women is deflowered they say she has “known” a man.
in the bible it says you can divorice your wife and she can marry another man, but you arent allowed to marry that woman again. that is because she has known another man. “known” is man code for “know” six inches isnt huge[/quote]
Actually I will argue with you, because your view is becoming increasingly outdated in this modern era.
In progressive, contemporary societies the fact is, as unmarried sex becomes more are more pervasive, less experience is NOT sexy. Show me a virgin and I’ll show u a pretty boring fuck.
Note that I’m NOT saying “making love” in that above claim, but I’ll still argue “that most men truly want a virgin” only in those sexually-repressed societies where having one lover-for-a-lifetime is both expected and demanded.
In the here-and-now and depending on where one lives, times have already up and completely changed…
I think the idea that more dicks = more experience is questionable.
The way I understand hook up culture it is lots and lots of at best mediocre, unsipired, drunken rutting.
Nothing wrong with that per se, but to imply that it would somehow trump a girls experience with one or two LTRs which led to 1000s of encounters with the same 2-3 men seems to be questionable.
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]eremesu wrote:
one thing that makes girls more attractive than women is that they are less experienced and thus less likely to have seen much wang. i think most men would prefer a virgin(dont argue with me, argue with history). i know it is unfair but i dont see alot of women making men out of virgin boys so dont complain.
if you are lucky enough to be a narcissist and walk around in a delusional bubble of awesomeness then you probably dont care how many dicks your girlfriend has seen. but i think it eats away at a normal man’s psyche. think about the bible. when a women is deflowered they say she has “known” a man.
in the bible it says you can divorice your wife and she can marry another man, but you arent allowed to marry that woman again. that is because she has known another man. “known” is man code for “know” six inches isnt huge[/quote]
Actually I will argue with you, because your view is becoming increasingly outdated in this modern era.
In progressive, contemporary societies the fact is, as unmarried sex becomes more are more pervasive, less experience is NOT sexy. Show me a virgin and I’ll show u a pretty boring fuck.
Note that I’m NOT saying “making love” in that above claim, but I’ll still argue “that most men truly want a virgin” only in those sexually-repressed societies where having one lover-for-a-lifetime is both expected and demanded.
In the here-and-now and depending on where one lives, times have already up and completely changed…
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I think it depends on what you’re looking for.
The best metaphor I’ve heard goes as follows:
If I’m playing a pickup game of baseball I’ll use any old glove previously used by several individuals.
If I’m buying a new one I want one I break it in myself.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
OMG!!! Please call the ANTI SAMA POLICE RIGHT NOW!! CALL THEM, PLEASE! SHIT’S GOING DOWN RIGHT NOW!!
LOL!
I JUST LOVE reading the way those fuckers MOAN and WHINE and CRY like LITTLE BITCHES with SAND FILLED VAGINAS.
FUCK’ EM.
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Pretty sure this is carry-over from that “Game w/Women” thread.
Another meaningful contribution to the forum by DN…