I get pretty severe appetite suppression on M1T, which is the closet thing, chemically, Ive ever done to tren, but is no where near as strong, and I generally use it for bulking.
Im aiming for 5-6k a day and its just impossible without milk.
I can barely hit 4500 in clean solid food, If I dont drink a bunch of milk I just cant meet my cals no matter what I do.
I sit here and force feed until I almost puke, then wait 2 hours and do it agian, all day, and I just cant eat anywhere near what I would eat if I were bulking and not on cycle.
Im taking a huge amount of oral B12, but its almost useless oral.
Where do I inject the B12 product listed ? it looks like an excellent plan, and Im pretty sure all athletes can benefit from better B12 levels.
I usually stick it right into my stomach. From what I understand it can be shot anywhere; subQ or IM.
I’m starting to think that B12 supplementation is advantageous only for certain individuals.
I believe it can be beneficial for a person with suppressed appetite due to intake of certain chemicals (tren, M1T, etc). The B12 is an artificial way to trick appetite levels back to baseline.
On that same note, I don’t think a person who isn’t on any such chemical would benefit much. If it’s already at baseline, I don’t know how much effect it would have.
Also keep in mind a person’s digestive rate. I’ve read stories about obese people eating until their esophagus is filled with food. Like a bottle, you can only fill it so much before it starts to overflow.
You can increase hunger but if you have slow digestion you won’t be able to eat very much. In which case you would almost suffer all day long with hunger pains you can’t seem to snuff.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
GHRP-6 works well in most. My personal results were minimal in terms of instant hunger but I appear to be the minority on that aspect. EQ worked just as well as GHRP-6 for myself.
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I’ve never heard of GHRP-6. I’m assuming it’s not something you can get OTC. So I would be better off using EQ seeing as it’s easier to source.
You say EQ worked “just as well as GHRP-6”, but your personal results were minimal with the G. So it was minimal with EQ as well, correct?
[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
GHRP-6 works well in most. My personal results were minimal in terms of instant hunger but I appear to be the minority on that aspect. EQ worked just as well as GHRP-6 for myself.
I’ve never heard of GHRP-6. I’m assuming it’s not something you can get OTC. So I would be better off using EQ seeing as it’s easier to source.
You say EQ worked “just as well as GHRP-6”, but your personal results were minimal with the G. So it was minimal with EQ as well, correct?[/quote]
Both stimulated hunger to some degree. The GHRP-6 is a research chem and not that hard to find. In most cases people claim that it stimulates massive hunger but it was only moderate in myself, similar to the EQ.
Also I do not have any access to that particular research chemical, if I feel my rats would benefit from this particular compound where might I look ? If someone could PM me that would be grand.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Hmm… never heard of GHRP-6 before.
Growth hormone releasing peptide…
How does it compare to B12 injection ? similar ?
Also I do not have any access to that particular research chemical, if I feel my rats would benefit from this particular compound where might I look ? If someone could PM me that would be grand.[/quote]
GHRP-6 would be injected the same way as B-12. It is advised against IM GHRP-6 injections. The only difference is that it is a peptide so it needs to be reconstituted before use.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Both stimulated hunger to some degree. The GHRP-6 is a research chem and not that hard to find. In most cases people claim that it stimulates massive hunger but it was only moderate in myself, similar to the EQ.[/quote]
Okay, thanks for that. I’ll go ahead and give it a try. I can’t seem to find the stuff. Does it go by some other name by any chance?
[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Both stimulated hunger to some degree. The GHRP-6 is a research chem and not that hard to find. In most cases people claim that it stimulates massive hunger but it was only moderate in myself, similar to the EQ.
Okay, thanks for that. I’ll go ahead and give it a try. I can’t seem to find the stuff. Does it go by some other name by any chance?
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Nope. Just have to know the right research chem place to look.
Synthelamin (B12) works like a champ for me – surprisingly well. It might be tough to pass it off as insulin since it’s bright red, but ignorance is ubiquitous. I inject IM and followed the prescribed protocol to the letter – 1ml/day for a week and then 1ml every third day thereafter. It’s water-based and poses no problems or pain.
I have GHRP-6 but haven’t used it yet. Note that it has to be refrigerated prior to and after reconstitution.
So this GHRP-6 stimulates the release of Ghrelin which increases appetite AND gastric emptying. So, on paper, this would work far better than simple B12. EQ increases hunger but does anyone know if it speeds gastric emptying also???
[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
So this GHRP-6 stimulates the release of Ghrelin which increases appetite AND gastric emptying. So, on paper, this would work far better than simple B12. EQ increases hunger but does anyone know if it speeds gastric emptying also???[/quote]
If I’m not mistaken you can buy straight Ghrelin as a research chem as well. I have not taken it so I cannot vouch for any effects.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
If I’m not mistaken you can buy straight Ghrelin as a research chem as well. I have not taken it so I cannot vouch for any effects.[/quote]
No, you’re not mistaken. Straight Ghrelin costs a lot more than the GHRP-6 on a per MG basis. But depending on dosage it may end up cheaper.
I will have to research these two for a bit. I want the best bang for my buck.
I was once prescribed Anti-hystamine, to stimulate my appetite. I don’t know how effective this would be with the Tren, but it is very readily available. Take it before bed, as it does make one very drowsy.
[quote]Waif No More wrote:
I was once prescribed Anti-hystamine, to stimulate my appetite. I don’t know how effective this would be with the Tren, but it is very readily available. Take it before bed, as it does make one very drowsy.[/quote]
Diphenhydramine ? thats Benadryl.
I was aware that it could stimulate appetite, but never heard of it being prescribed for this reason, that might be work checking into, but its long term use is pretty much crippled by the whole knocks you unconscious thing and could be very habit forming if taken before bed.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Waif No More wrote:
I was once prescribed Anti-hystamine, to stimulate my appetite. I don’t know how effective this would be with the Tren, but it is very readily available. Take it before bed, as it does make one very drowsy.
Diphenhydramine ? thats Benadryl.
I was aware that it could stimulate appetite, but never heard of it being prescribed for this reason, that might be work checking into, but its long term use is pretty much crippled by the whole knocks you unconscious thing and could be very habit forming if taken before bed.[/quote]
No, i suspect it is more likely Periactin; Cyproheptadine
