Anything New about the Teaparty?

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Really Smh, why are you not bashing Obama when he stated we have 57 states… that is an unintelligent person leading our country.
What about the mouthbreathers that got our stupid commander in chief elected? What about him stating that we bitter people cling to our guns and religion. What about him stating if we dont like our gas prices we just have to trade in our trucks for smaller cars. What about him stating that if we want to run on coal well he is just gonna make it harder for companies to do it.

Also why are you worried about a candidate who is not in office. If that is all the ammo you have then it is nothing but blanks my friend.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Mentioning that did not the Tea baggers have a candidate that wanted to make masturbation illegal ?
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Nonsense[/quote]

Truly nonsenses, the problem is there are people that like to control other people [/quote]

She wanted to “control” other people by convincing them and she was not very succesful.

So, where is the problem?

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No problem for me , but if the tea party hitches their wagon behind candidates like her , it could be a problem for them

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[quote]jre67t wrote:
Really Smh, why are you not bashing Obama when he stated we have 57 states… that is an unintelligent person leading our country.
What about the mouthbreathers that got our stupid commander in chief elected? What about him stating that we bitter people cling to our guns and religion. What about him stating if we dont like our gas prices we just have to trade in our trucks for smaller cars. What about him stating that if we want to run on coal well he is just gonna make it harder for companies to do it.

Also why are you worried about a candidate who is not in office. If that is all the ammo you have then it is nothing but blanks my friend.[/quote]

Firstly I’m not worried about her, she was brought up by someone else. I am worried about the political climate that allowed someone like her to come so close to elected office, but that’s a different story.

As for Obama–disagree with his policies, philosophy, actions all you like. I certainly disagree with many of them (although the comments about guns & religion, smaller cars, and coal I laud).

But unintelligent he is not. Columbia undergrad and Harvard Law School, where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. And unlike so many other politicians, he did it without family in the Ivy League network. His books were well-written. He is eloquent.

Not that that makes him a good president. But I doubt he is unintelligent.

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Well well Smh…you really believe we have no rights on guns, cars and coal huh? Why did he never write an editorial, why are all his school records being sealed?
Your right he might intelligent in a snake sort of way.

Alos by your logic Bush went to Yale so he is smart and articulate according to your stance. And before you start pointing out his grades be aware that Obamas are locked and sealed.

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[quote]jre67t wrote:

Well well Smh…you really believe we have no rights on guns, cars and coal huh? Why did he never write an editorial, why are all his school records being sealed?
Your right he might intelligent in a snake sort of way.

Alos by your logic Bush went to Yale so he is smart and articulate according to your stance. And before you start pointing out his grades be aware that Obamas are locked and sealed.
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Obama graduated Magna Cum from Harvard Law so whether they are locked and sealed or not, they were good. Also yes Bush went to Yale (and I don’t think he was a dumb as people liked to say) but then so would have anyone that came from a family of such high pedigree.

I’m not interested in defending Obama’s intelligence though. And no I don’t think you “have no rights on guns, car and coal” as you so eloquently put it.

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[quote]jre67t wrote:

Well well Smh…you really believe we have no rights on guns, cars and coal huh? Why did he never write an editorial, why are all his school records being sealed?
Your right he might intelligent in a snake sort of way.

Alos by your logic Bush went to Yale so he is smart and articulate according to your stance. And before you start pointing out his grades be aware that Obamas are locked and sealed.
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Obama’s father is really from outer space , Obama was engineered to bring the world to it’s knees. His mother was inseminated many years ago as a part of an elaborate scheme , The part about Obama being born in Kenya is just a diversion . If you want proof you have to look behind his ears.
If he does not let you, look it is a guarantee that he is an alien . Glen beck was just going to break this story before he was fired

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jre67t wrote:

Well well Smh…you really believe we have no rights on guns, cars and coal huh? Why did he never write an editorial, why are all his school records being sealed?
Your right he might intelligent in a snake sort of way.

Alos by your logic Bush went to Yale so he is smart and articulate according to your stance. And before you start pointing out his grades be aware that Obamas are locked and sealed.
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Obama’s father is really from outer space , Obama was engineered to bring the world to it’s knees. His mother was inseminated many years ago as a part of an elaborate scheme , The part about Obama being born in Kenya is just a diversion . If you want proof you have to look behind his ears.
If he does not let you, look it is a guarantee that he is an alien . Glen beck was just going to break this story before he was fired[/quote]

LOL great Headhunter parody you got there pittbull :stuck_out_tongue:

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You leftist are so silly way to attack my grammar instead of the message. As always pitbull tries to change the subject by insulting. Winning

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Obama’s alleged intelligence does not transcend or translate to being a great leader. This man was elevated by peers and the media unmatched and unverified by his experience.

The Obama hype machine = the hype behind Ryan Leaf in the NFL.

Obama had NO CLUE what to do when the shit hits the fan, is careless and impulsive (see his wise latina and police acted stupidly comments), and made the some of the same crucial mistakes that presidents from the past have made. Once what you say or what you claim is on tape or video, you are fucked if you do otherwise. Obama neutralized much of his hype (by his own fault really) when he didn’t post shit on CSPAN like he promised, and tried bribing politicians to get votes. This is nothing new, we all know that, but the “hope and change” people thought that he would not resort to that. That really began his demise IMO.

Probably the only appeal that GW Bush had during his reelection, was that people knew he was a buffoon, and that that was consistent throughout. Would people trade the unknown Kerry for a tried and true imbecile like Bush? Bush won by 51%, which still meant that half the country hates him.

People hate obvious bullshitters and shady people in general. I think people will vote for a proven idiot yet stays true to his idiotic behavior than a bullshitter like Kerry or Gore.

The way to beat Obama, is to have a guy who is fiscally conservative, socially middle, and has the sack to do what he claims. The moment we see the birther bullshit, that candidate is done. The moment we see Obama is a Muslim, that guy is done. When Conservatives or Republicans stop attacking useless arguments like that and realize that people want to see jobs on the table, gas prices dropping, taxes dropping or staying low, GTFO of the ME, then you will have a contender. So far I see none.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Obama’s alleged intelligence does not transcend or translate to being a great leader. This man was elevated by peers and the media unmatched and unverified by his experience.

The Obama hype machine = the hype behind Ryan Leaf in the NFL.

Obama had NO CLUE what to do when the shit hits the fan, is careless and impulsive (see his wise latina and police acted stupidly comments), and made the some of the same crucial mistakes that presidents from the past have made. Once what you say or what you claim is on tape or video, you are fucked if you do otherwise. Obama neutralized much of his hype (by his own fault really) when he didn’t post shit on CSPAN like he promised, and tried bribing politicians to get votes. This is nothing new, we all know that, but the “hope and change” people thought that he would not resort to that. That really began his demise IMO.

Probably the only appeal that GW Bush had during his reelection, was that people knew he was a buffoon, and that that was consistent throughout. Would people trade the unknown Kerry for a tried and true imbecile like Bush? Bush won by 51%, which still meant that half the country hates him.

People hate obvious bullshitters and shady people in general. I think people will vote for a proven idiot yet stays true to his idiotic behavior than a bullshitter like Kerry or Gore.

The way to beat Obama, is to have a guy who is fiscally conservative, socially middle, and has the sack to do what he claims. The moment we see the birther bullshit, that candidate is done. The moment we see Obama is a Muslim, that guy is done. When Conservatives or Republicans stop attacking useless arguments like that and realize that people want to see jobs on the table, gas prices dropping, taxes dropping or staying low, GTFO of the ME, then you will have a contender. So far I see none.[/quote]

I agree with a lot of this. Also I do know that being intelligent doesn’t necessarily make him a good leader, I made sure to add that to my comments.

I do have to say this though: the parties and candidates that are presented to the American people are extremely different in their professed intentions, ideologies, styles, etc. But I have been reading a lot about the financial crisis and as I delve deeper I can find extremely little difference between Bush 1, Clinton, W Bush, and Obama. When you cut through rhetoric and look at action, the parties are less different than anyone likes to let on. Also, whatever his personal view of economics, Obama is not running a socialist white house by any means–the way he has handled the financial crisis has been little more than a continuation of policies that have been in place since the 80s.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Obama’s alleged intelligence does not transcend or translate to being a great leader. This man was elevated by peers and the media unmatched and unverified by his experience.

The Obama hype machine = the hype behind Ryan Leaf in the NFL.

Obama had NO CLUE what to do when the shit hits the fan, is careless and impulsive (see his wise latina and police acted stupidly comments), and made the some of the same crucial mistakes that presidents from the past have made. Once what you say or what you claim is on tape or video, you are fucked if you do otherwise. Obama neutralized much of his hype (by his own fault really) when he didn’t post shit on CSPAN like he promised, and tried bribing politicians to get votes. This is nothing new, we all know that, but the “hope and change” people thought that he would not resort to that. That really began his demise IMO.

Probably the only appeal that GW Bush had during his reelection, was that people knew he was a buffoon, and that that was consistent throughout. Would people trade the unknown Kerry for a tried and true imbecile like Bush? Bush won by 51%, which still meant that half the country hates him.

People hate obvious bullshitters and shady people in general. I think people will vote for a proven idiot yet stays true to his idiotic behavior than a bullshitter like Kerry or Gore.

The way to beat Obama, is to have a guy who is fiscally conservative, socially middle, and has the sack to do what he claims. The moment we see the birther bullshit, that candidate is done. The moment we see Obama is a Muslim, that guy is done. When Conservatives or Republicans stop attacking useless arguments like that and realize that people want to see jobs on the table, gas prices dropping, taxes dropping or staying low, GTFO of the ME, then you will have a contender. So far I see none.[/quote]

I think as long as we have two choices Republican or Democrat we will never be happy . Personally I would like to see some one that does not cater to a party. I like Paul but IMO there are somethings about social programs that are good , Freeways , Medicine would be great,No one starving, A way to not live on the streets.

I think there are plenty of things to cut to balance the budget

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Obama’s alleged intelligence does not transcend or translate to being a great leader. This man was elevated by peers and the media unmatched and unverified by his experience.

The Obama hype machine = the hype behind Ryan Leaf in the NFL.

Obama had NO CLUE what to do when the shit hits the fan, is careless and impulsive (see his wise latina and police acted stupidly comments), and made the some of the same crucial mistakes that presidents from the past have made. Once what you say or what you claim is on tape or video, you are fucked if you do otherwise. Obama neutralized much of his hype (by his own fault really) when he didn’t post shit on CSPAN like he promised, and tried bribing politicians to get votes. This is nothing new, we all know that, but the “hope and change” people thought that he would not resort to that. That really began his demise IMO.

Probably the only appeal that GW Bush had during his reelection, was that people knew he was a buffoon, and that that was consistent throughout. Would people trade the unknown Kerry for a tried and true imbecile like Bush? Bush won by 51%, which still meant that half the country hates him.

People hate obvious bullshitters and shady people in general. I think people will vote for a proven idiot yet stays true to his idiotic behavior than a bullshitter like Kerry or Gore.

The way to beat Obama, is to have a guy who is fiscally conservative, socially middle, and has the sack to do what he claims. The moment we see the birther bullshit, that candidate is done. The moment we see Obama is a Muslim, that guy is done. When Conservatives or Republicans stop attacking useless arguments like that and realize that people want to see jobs on the table, gas prices dropping, taxes dropping or staying low, GTFO of the ME, then you will have a contender. So far I see none.[/quote]

I think as long as we have two choices Republican or Democrat we will never be happy . Personally I would like to see some one that does not cater to a party. I like Paul but IMO there are somethings about social programs that are good , Freeways , Medicine would be great,No one starving, A way to not live on the streets.

I think there are plenty of things to cut to balance the budget
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Well put, the only real way to force any kind of appreciable change is to have a viable third party…but I’m not holding my breath.

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Read today that the Tea Party was still not receiving much love from the MSM. Not much of a surprise there.

“The Media is Not, Repeat Not, Biased Against â??Tea Party Radicalsâ??”

From the article:

“Yesterday there were many Tea Party rallies around the country â?? you know, those things where large groups of people exercise their First Amendment rights, express their desire for government to become more responsible and not saddle current and future generations with insurmountable debt and taxation â?? not to mention leave the area of their rallies as clean as they found it. In other words, radicals!
Hereâ??s the actual caption of one AFP photo and video link from a Boston rally that appears on Yahoo News:”

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I cannot wrap my head around how people would want the government to take more of your money. I have to believe that you know best how you should spend your money.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:
I do have to say this though: the parties and candidates that are presented to the American people are extremely different in their professed intentions, ideologies, styles, etc. But I have been reading a lot about the financial crisis and as I delve deeper I can find extremely little difference between Bush 1, Clinton, W Bush, and Obama. When you cut through rhetoric and look at action, the parties are less different than anyone likes to let on. Also, whatever his personal view of economics, Obama is not running a socialist white house by any means–the way he has handled the financial crisis has been little more than a continuation of policies that have been in place since the 80s.[/quote]

This is why I can’t argue party politics, and why it is getting more difficult to even argue policy unless it is from a “suck” vs. “doesn’t suck” position.

The two parties have become twins.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I cannot wrap my head around how people would want the government to take more of your money. I have to believe that you know best how you should spend your money. [/quote]

This…as of today the S & P has downgraded the level of U.S. debt to “negative”.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-sink-after-SampP-apf-2235068999.html?x=0

If it takes a group of slightly crazy Tea Party congressman to start cutting the budget, then bring it the fuck on.

People need to realize that you cannot continue to run a 1.5 TRILLION dollar a year deficit and just have business as usual.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
I do have to say this though: the parties and candidates that are presented to the American people are extremely different in their professed intentions, ideologies, styles, etc. But I have been reading a lot about the financial crisis and as I delve deeper I can find extremely little difference between Bush 1, Clinton, W Bush, and Obama. When you cut through rhetoric and look at action, the parties are less different than anyone likes to let on. Also, whatever his personal view of economics, Obama is not running a socialist white house by any means–the way he has handled the financial crisis has been little more than a continuation of policies that have been in place since the 80s.[/quote]

This is why I can’t argue party politics, and why it is getting more difficult to even argue policy unless it is from a “suck” vs. “doesn’t suck” position.

The two parties have become twins.

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It’s easy to feel that way sometimes, but whenever you do keep in mind who fought to defeat health care reform. It was every single republican (and they will soon fight to unfund it). And keep in mind that it was also the republicans that almost shut down the government unless they got spending cuts. Granted it wasn’t enough but it is a start. The republicans have made plenty of mistakes in the past, most of those mistakes have been trying to act like democrcats. But, at this point I think they are on the right track. And if they were not there Obama would be doing some awful, awful things.

Keep the faith!

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Check out what is happening here in Southern California, an Orange County GOP central committee lady found this pic amusing…

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At first, that picture offended me. I shook my head at the idiocy behind it, I felt rage and hatred for the bitch who thought that was fucking funny and I wished I could fist her ass until she begs me for mercy…

But then, once I calmed down, I had another look, giggled and said to myself, ‘that’s actually a lovely family portrait…’

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Nooo, that pic is not racist at all… It’s not like apes = Africans has any history in Europe, North Africa and North America or anything…

As for the TP… They’re busy handing Obama a second term.

Planned Parenthood was already mentioned in this thread - “not intented to be a factual statement” and all… People seem to be on to that whole social engineering stuff that the religious right had planned.

The Donald has gone full birther and seems to be doing well in the polls - can’t wait to see what the SoCons will do to him in the primaries (especially given his previous political opportunism - supporting Dems and all).

“Fight like a girl” Palin vs. “Take their oil” the Donald 2012?

The GOP might take the general if they run a moderate (aka RINO), are willing to drop the SoCon/Tealiban madness and go down the “it’s economy, stupid” route (tough sell w/medicare, Medicaid), but who will get the nomination?

Fortunately, Freerepublic… eh, sorry, PWI is only a tiny microcosm as far as that vast and wonderful nation known as the US of A is concerned.