Anyone Interested in a Serious Religious Debate?

[quote]BackInAction wrote:

[quote]mse2us wrote:

[quote]BackInAction wrote:
I have two questions about Jehovah’s Witnesses beliefs:

  1. Why don’t JWs want blood transfusions? I understand they cite scripture, but I still don’t understand why it’s such a big deal. One of my friends growing up needed a bone marrow transplant. Without it, she would have died (she had Leukima). Would you truly reject such a treatment?

  2. What’s so important about October 1914? I keep seeing references to this date, but am not sure what exactly transpired on that year according to JWs beliefs.[/quote]

Great questions! I’ll answer the first on in this post and I’m still debating whether I’ll answer the second one.

From the beginning of the Bible to the end of the Bible God’s law regarding taking in blood into the body is clear. God says do not eat it and then later on he says to abstain from blood. God constitutes how blood should be used which is for the atonement of sin and when it is used in the wrong way it devalues the redeeming qualities of blood. That’s why the blood of animals played a heavy role in the sacrificing of animals which the Israelites were required to do to have their sins forgiven. The need to sacrifice animals was done away with after Jesus’ sacrifice. His blood was greater than any animals or humans blood.

This command was given to Noah, to the Israelites under the Mosaic Law and to the Christians. I’ll just list the scripture given to the Christians: Act 15:28:
“28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”

That verse shows the seriousness of abstaining from blood because it list it with idol worship and fornication. This has been observed since the apostolic times. For example, The Ecclesiastical History, by Eusebius, V, I,Ã??Ã? 26 states: In 177Ã??Ã? C.E., in Lyons (now in France), when religious enemies falsely accused Christians of eating children, a woman named Biblis said: “How would such men eat children, when they are not allowed to eat the blood even of irrational animals?”

Christians back then and we now understand the meaning of blood so we respect the commandment to abstain from it.

Now this is what separates us from other Christian religions.

We would rather die than break God’s commandments. There is a scripture at Revelation 2:10 that states this:
Do not be afraid of the things you are about to suffer. Look! The Devil will keep on throwing some of YOU into prison that YOU may be fully put to the test, and that YOU may have tribulation ten days. Prove yourself faithful even to death, and I will give you the crown of life.

The sentence I but in bold is the main focus so remaining faithful to God’s commandments even if it means that we lose our lives is of utmost importance to us. We are confident that God will resurrect us after armegeddon.

Also, we see examples in the Bible when servants of God chose death rather than break God’s law. The three Hebrews who were in Babylonian captivity in the book of Daniel is one such example. The king said whoever didn’t bow down to the image he made was going to be thrown into a firey furnace. When they didn’t bow down the first time he even gave them a second chance to bow down and boasted about their God not being able to save them. They then replied back to the king that if their God will rescue them then he will but if not they still weren’t going to bow down to the image. Long story short they were thrown into the furnace and God rescued them. All they had to do was bow down but they chose death instead of breaking God’s law. (Daniel 3:12-30)

Another example is Daniel himself. Again, the king of Babylon made a law that no one could pray to their God for 30 days or else be thrown into the lions pit. Daniel was used to praying in view of many people so when this law was put into affect Daniel did not pray in seclusion. He prayed in the same manner for anyone to see. He was then thrown into the lions pit(Daniel 6) So he too chose death rather than break God’s law.

In both of the above examples God protected them and they survived the punishment but we see that later during the persecution of the Christians under emporer Nero that God did not always save his servants from death when they chose to remain faithful instead of breaking his laws. Emporer Nero required his people to worship him and one of the ways to do this was by having them take incense and throw it into a fire and say “Hail Caesar.” If one didn’t do this they faced the gladiators arena which meant certain death. Faithful christians of that time chose to die rather than simply throw incense into the fire and say hail Caesar and many did die.

Because of all that I mentioned above if we are in a situation where we are injured and we need blood we as a religion are encouraged to abstain from taking blood because of the reasons I listed above. This isn’t something we blindly follow. We all clearly understand the scriptures in the Bible, why blood is important to God and we see the examples in the Bible were faithful servants chose death instead of breaking God’s commands. Now if a Jehovah’s Witness is in a situation where he or a loved one needs a blood transfusion to survive then this becomes the ultimate test of faith and often times it is not an easy decision. At that moment the issue is between them and God. I can’t say that every Jehovah’s Witness that has ever been in that situation remains faithful but the abstaining from blood is heavily stressed in our religion so that when one is faced with this ultimate test they are more likely to pass it and abstain from blood. Because if it is not made clear why we should abstain and how important it is to abstain from blood, then when a Jehovah’s Witnesses is in a situation where they are facing this ultimate test they will most likely break God’s command and have the blood transfusion to save his life. So it is made crystal clear as to why we should abstain from blood and we even carry a Durable Power of Attorney card in our wallet so that in the case we are unconscious it is clear of our stance.

Again, this is one of the things that separates us from other religions. The Bible states that God is only going to have one group of people be his chosen people. We see this with the Israelites who were the only group at that time that were acceptable to God. And we also see that when the Christian congregation was formed they became God’s people and he rejected the Israelites worship. The Bible makes clear that one belief or faith is going to be accepted by God at Ephesians 4:5,6(NIV) which states:
“There is one body and one SpiritÃ?¢??just as you were called to one hope when you were calledÃ?¢?? 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;”

BIA, all of the religions of the world with different faiths are offering their worship to God. Who’s worship do you think he will accept? The worship of those who are willing to follow all of the commands in the Bible, fully understand the commands and are willing to prove faithful even to the point of death in any situation instead of breaking Gods command? Or a group that picks and chooses what commands to follow?

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First off, thank you for taking the time to put this answer together. You obviously put effort into it and I want to say thank you!

In regards to the scripture you cited (in regards to the blood), do you believe they were planning this for blood transfusions or were they talking about drinking and using blood for other (non-medical) reasons? Even at the last supper, Jesus said “take this and drink it, this is my blood which I give up for you” (paraphrased). Doesn’t this suggest that since he is sacrificing himself, it would be okay for others to do the same? (such as a father donating blood to his son)?

And as to your question…

“Who’s worship do you think he will accept? The worship of those who are willing to follow all of the commands in the Bible, fully understand the commands and are willing to prove faithful even to the point of death in any situation instead of breaking Gods command? Or a group that picks and chooses what commands to follow”

I honestly do not know the answer to that. But ultimately, if God sent someone to hell for for giving a transfusion to a family member, friend, or someone else in need, I honestly don’t think I would respect or worship that God. If I didn’t give the transfusion, I would be responsible for the suffering and death of that person by not helping them. I would rather save that person and take the chance of ending up in hell, if it exists. But this is just my opinion.
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Agreed. I can not serve a God that would expect me to work my way to heaven. Just so you know Jehovah’s Witnesses beleive that their works are on par with the grace, sorry not grace but undeserved kindness, the God gives to us. Christians beleive that is by faith through grace that saves us. God is the only person, higher being, or whatever you want to call him that can save us. God sent his son Jesus, who is 100% man and 100% God to sacrifice himself for you and me. This is what my faith is in. If I rely on my works then I can never work hard enough to gain his favor. We see this through out the Old Testament. If JWs do not do enough works then they will never have the heavenly hope. I have the heavenly hope because Jesus said I did. I have an inheritance in heaven and have been given a crown of life. Jesus is the reason, and he has to be God, and not an angel. “God never said to an angel to sit at my right hand.” If an angel can not sit at God’s right hand who is Jesus? He is God.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Come on M&M. Jesus was fully human which if I take your logic means he is just like you and me, so he also can not be like God. If you do not think he was fully human then his sacrifice for us means nothing. He has to be human to be a fully acceptable sacrifice to God for humans. Now if you think he is 100% man then your idea he is a spirit being is wrong. Christians say is is 100% man and 100% God. This is able to acomplish both, and stated clearly in the Bible. John 1:1 End of story. [/quote]

John 1:1? Really? We JUST covered this. The true translation of that scripture is clear. Jesus was A god, not THE God. HUGE difference.

[quote]BackInAction wrote:
One thing I don’t understand about the crucification story is why didn’t anyone save Jesus? Surely, if they loved him, wouldn’t they at least make some effort to save him? If I was convinced that the son of my God was on earth with me, how could I not have tried to stop the whole crucification of him?

By not acting, are they not immoral beings for letting another suffer and die?[/quote]

Great question. I agree with you entirely, but I will say that “All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.” Before Jesus was betrayed Peter told Jesus that he would not deny him. If you read the last part of I think John, it was not until the resurrection of Jesus that the disciples truely understood what Jesus had taught them. This is when their eyes were opened and they saw that he was God. None of the disciples forgot that, and they all died for their beliefs in Jesus as a Martyr. So in a way they did die for him in the end.

Another point is it had to be this way, that is why Jesus told Peter to put his sword away in the garden when Jesus was betrayed. So Jesus knew that he had to be a sacrifice for us. He knew it was the only way he could save humans from eternity away from himself.

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Come on M&M. Jesus was fully human which if I take your logic means he is just like you and me, so he also can not be like God. If you do not think he was fully human then his sacrifice for us means nothing. He has to be human to be a fully acceptable sacrifice to God for humans. Now if you think he is 100% man then your idea he is a spirit being is wrong. Christians say is is 100% man and 100% God. This is able to acomplish both, and stated clearly in the Bible. John 1:1 End of story. [/quote]

John 1:1? Really? We JUST covered this. The true translation of that scripture is clear. Jesus was A god, not THE God. HUGE difference.[/quote]

That is only your position and not anybody elses. Including all the translations on Bible.cc that you love to quote so much. Go back to the books HL.

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Come on M&M. Jesus was fully human which if I take your logic means he is just like you and me, so he also can not be like God. If you do not think he was fully human then his sacrifice for us means nothing. He has to be human to be a fully acceptable sacrifice to God for humans. Now if you think he is 100% man then your idea he is a spirit being is wrong. Christians say is is 100% man and 100% God. This is able to acomplish both, and stated clearly in the Bible. John 1:1 End of story. [/quote]

John 1:1? Really? We JUST covered this. The true translation of that scripture is clear. Jesus was A god, not THE God. HUGE difference.[/quote]

I also find it funny how you only try and pick apart one of my verses. You still have not answered the part where God states, “To which angel did he ever say sit at my right hand.” By this one verse your entire doctrine is shown false. Jesus can only be three spirit beings. He is either a fallen angel, which none of us believe, an angel, which God clearly shows that he is not by that one verse, or Jesus is God. You take your pick I have picked that he is God.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Agreed. I can not serve a God that would expect me to work my way to heaven. Just so you know Jehovah’s Witnesses beleive that their works are on par with the grace, sorry not grace but undeserved kindness, the God gives to us. Christians beleive that is by faith through grace that saves us. God is the only person, higher being, or whatever you want to call him that can save us. God sent his son Jesus, who is 100% man and 100% God to sacrifice himself for you and me. This is what my faith is in. If I rely on my works then I can never work hard enough to gain his favor. We see this through out the Old Testament. If JWs do not do enough works then they will never have the heavenly hope. I have the heavenly hope because Jesus said I did. I have an inheritance in heaven and have been given a crown of life. Jesus is the reason, and he has to be God, and not an angel. “God never said to an angel to sit at my right hand.” If an angel can not sit at God’s right hand who is Jesus? He is God.[/quote]

Why can’t you serve a God that would expect you to do work? That is extremely selfish don’t you think? He would go through the trouble of bringing you to heaven and dealing with you for the rest of eternity, and you have to do what? Nothing?

You work at a job right? You get a paycheck? Do you have to work for that paycheck? Is it wrong to have to work for a paycheck?

I personally have to work for a paycheck, and the idea that I have to do that does not upset me. It is a requirement for the reward. However, even though we work for a paycheck, our boss decides how much we get paid. It is his kindness that dictates if we get a raise or not, isn’t it? And yet, all that is normal. However, if the Sovereign of the Entire Universe asks us to do something, that is asking too much.

That seems extremely selfish on your part.

James 2:14-26 NIV

"What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, “Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds."Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder.

You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

[quote]mse2us wrote:

[quote]BackInAction wrote:
I have two questions about Jehovah’s Witnesses beliefs:

  1. Why don’t JWs want blood transfusions? I understand they cite scripture, but I still don’t understand why it’s such a big deal. One of my friends growing up needed a bone marrow transplant. Without it, she would have died (she had Leukima). Would you truly reject such a treatment?

  2. What’s so important about October 1914? I keep seeing references to this date, but am not sure what exactly transpired on that year according to JWs beliefs.[/quote]

Great questions! I’ll answer the first on in this post and I’m still debating whether I’ll answer the second one.

From the beginning of the Bible to the end of the Bible God’s law regarding taking in blood into the body is clear. God says do not eat it and then later on he says to abstain from blood. God constitutes how blood should be used which is for the atonement of sin and when it is used in the wrong way it devalues the redeeming qualities of blood. That’s why the blood of animals played a heavy role in the sacrificing of animals which the Israelites were required to do to have their sins forgiven. The need to sacrifice animals was done away with after Jesus’ sacrifice. His blood was greater than any animals or humans blood.

This command was given to Noah, to the Israelites under the Mosaic Law and to the Christians. I’ll just list the scripture given to the Christians: Act 15:28:
“28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”

That verse shows the seriousness of abstaining from blood because it list it with idol worship and fornication. This has been observed since the apostolic times. For example, The Ecclesiastical History, by Eusebius, V, I,Ã? 26 states: In 177Ã? C.E., in Lyons (now in France), when religious enemies falsely accused Christians of eating children, a woman named Biblis said: “How would such men eat children, when they are not allowed to eat the blood even of irrational animals?”

Christians back then and we now understand the meaning of blood so we respect the commandment to abstain from it.

Now this is what separates us from other Christian religions.

We would rather die than break God’s commandments. There is a scripture at Revelation 2:10 that states this:
Do not be afraid of the things you are about to suffer. Look! The Devil will keep on throwing some of YOU into prison that YOU may be fully put to the test, and that YOU may have tribulation ten days. Prove yourself faithful even to death, and I will give you the crown of life.

The sentence I but in bold is the main focus so remaining faithful to God’s commandments even if it means that we lose our lives is of utmost importance to us. We are confident that God will resurrect us after armegeddon.

Also, we see examples in the Bible when servants of God chose death rather than break God’s law. The three Hebrews who were in Babylonian captivity in the book of Daniel is one such example. The king said whoever didn’t bow down to the image he made was going to be thrown into a firey furnace. When they didn’t bow down the first time he even gave them a second chance to bow down and boasted about their God not being able to save them. They then replied back to the king that if their God will rescue them then he will but if not they still weren’t going to bow down to the image. Long story short they were thrown into the furnace and God rescued them. All they had to do was bow down but they chose death instead of breaking God’s law. (Daniel 3:12-30)

Another example is Daniel himself. Again, the king of Babylon made a law that no one could pray to their God for 30 days or else be thrown into the lions pit. Daniel was used to praying in view of many people so when this law was put into affect Daniel did not pray in seclusion. He prayed in the same manner for anyone to see. He was then thrown into the lions pit(Daniel 6) So he too chose death rather than break God’s law.

In both of the above examples God protected them and they survived the punishment but we see that later during the persecution of the Christians under emporer Nero that God did not always save his servants from death when they chose to remain faithful instead of breaking his laws. Emporer Nero required his people to worship him and one of the ways to do this was by having them take incense and throw it into a fire and say “Hail Caesar.” If one didn’t do this they faced the gladiators arena which meant certain death. Faithful christians of that time chose to die rather than simply throw incense into the fire and say hail Caesar and many did die.

Because of all that I mentioned above if we are in a situation where we are injured and we need blood we as a religion are encouraged to abstain from taking blood because of the reasons I listed above. This isn’t something we blindly follow. We all clearly understand the scriptures in the Bible, why blood is important to God and we see the examples in the Bible were faithful servants chose death instead of breaking God’s commands. Now if a Jehovah’s Witness is in a situation where he or a loved one needs a blood transfusion to survive then this becomes the ultimate test of faith and often times it is not an easy decision. At that moment the issue is between them and God. I can’t say that every Jehovah’s Witness that has ever been in that situation remains faithful but the abstaining from blood is heavily stressed in our religion so that when one is faced with this ultimate test they are more likely to pass it and abstain from blood. Because if it is not made clear why we should abstain and how important it is to abstain from blood, then when a Jehovah’s Witnesses is in a situation where they are facing this ultimate test they will most likely break God’s command and have the blood transfusion to save his life. So it is made crystal clear as to why we should abstain from blood and we even carry a Durable Power of Attorney card in our wallet so that in the case we are unconscious it is clear of our stance.

Again, this is one of the things that separates us from other religions. The Bible states that God is only going to have one group of people be his chosen people. We see this with the Israelites who were the only group at that time that were acceptable to God. And we also see that when the Christian congregation was formed they became God’s people and he rejected the Israelites worship. The Bible makes clear that one belief or faith is going to be accepted by God at Ephesians 4:5,6(NIV) which states:
“There is one body and one Spiritâ??just as you were called to one hope when you were calledâ?? 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;”

BIA, all of the religions of the world with different faiths are offering their worship to God. Who’s worship do you think he will accept? The worship of those who are willing to follow all of the commands in the Bible, fully understand the commands and are willing to prove faithful even to the point of death in any situation instead of breaking Gods command? Or a group that picks and chooses what commands to follow?

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And apparently you don’t mind suing the doctor for complications arising from your refusal to take blood.

JUST PLEASE STAY OFF MY DOOR STEP. I’VE HAD GREAT PLEASURE CHASING YOUR KIND AWAY BUT IT’S TIRESOME.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Come on M&M. Jesus was fully human which if I take your logic means he is just like you and me, so he also can not be like God. If you do not think he was fully human then his sacrifice for us means nothing. He has to be human to be a fully acceptable sacrifice to God for humans. Now if you think he is 100% man then your idea he is a spirit being is wrong. Christians say is is 100% man and 100% God. This is able to acomplish both, and stated clearly in the Bible. John 1:1 End of story. [/quote]

John 1:1? Really? We JUST covered this. The true translation of that scripture is clear. Jesus was A god, not THE God. HUGE difference.[/quote]

That is only your position and not anybody elses. Including all the translations on Bible.cc that you love to quote so much. Go back to the books HL.[/quote]

Go back to what books? The translations or the original Greek? Because I went to the original Greek to find my answer.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]BackInAction wrote:
One thing I don’t understand about the crucification story is why didn’t anyone save Jesus? Surely, if they loved him, wouldn’t they at least make some effort to save him? If I was convinced that the son of my God was on earth with me, how could I not have tried to stop the whole crucification of him?

By not acting, are they not immoral beings for letting another suffer and die?[/quote]

Great question. I agree with you entirely, but I will say that “All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.” Before Jesus was betrayed Peter told Jesus that he would not deny him. If you read the last part of I think John, it was not until the resurrection of Jesus that the disciples truely understood what Jesus had taught them. This is when their eyes were opened and they saw that he was God. None of the disciples forgot that, and they all died for their beliefs in Jesus as a Martyr. So in a way they did die for him in the end.

Another point is it had to be this way, that is why Jesus told Peter to put his sword away in the garden when Jesus was betrayed. So Jesus knew that he had to be a sacrifice for us. He knew it was the only way he could save humans from eternity away from himself.[/quote]

So after Jesus sacrificed himself, to himself, what actually changed? I’m thinking back to our discussions on Adam and Eve. We still die. We still suffer. So what actually changed?

A little news coverage on bloodless surgery:

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[quote]BackInAction wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]BackInAction wrote:
One thing I don’t understand about the crucification story is why didn’t anyone save Jesus? Surely, if they loved him, wouldn’t they at least make some effort to save him? If I was convinced that the son of my God was on earth with me, how could I not have tried to stop the whole crucification of him?

By not acting, are they not immoral beings for letting another suffer and die?[/quote]

Great question. I agree with you entirely, but I will say that “All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.” Before Jesus was betrayed Peter told Jesus that he would not deny him. If you read the last part of I think John, it was not until the resurrection of Jesus that the disciples truely understood what Jesus had taught them. This is when their eyes were opened and they saw that he was God. None of the disciples forgot that, and they all died for their beliefs in Jesus as a Martyr. So in a way they did die for him in the end.

Another point is it had to be this way, that is why Jesus told Peter to put his sword away in the garden when Jesus was betrayed. So Jesus knew that he had to be a sacrifice for us. He knew it was the only way he could save humans from eternity away from himself.[/quote]

So after Jesus sacrificed himself, to himself, what actually changed? I’m thinking back to our discussions on Adam and Eve. We still die. We still suffer. So what actually changed?
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I am not going to proof this post because if I do I will delete it, so please excuse any spelling or gramatical errors.

You are correct we all die, but at judgement day we are all resurrected as Jesus was. We then stand before God to be judged. We will either hear welcome my child the kingdom is yours, or we will hear depart from me I never knew you. We either inherite the kingdom of heaven or we are sentenced to Hell. I know this is black and white. This is why I try to let everyone know about the truth.

You ask about the sacrifice. To inherite the kingdom of heaven we had to be cleansed of our unrighteousness. The wages of sin is death. Sin separates us from God. God demands blood for an atonement of sin. God wants us to be with him so much he decided to make the sacrifice for us, but we need blood to cleanse us to bring us back into fellowship, communion, or friendship with God. We are saved by faith through the blood of Jesus. There is only one being that is without sin. It is not humans or angels, but God only that is without sin. God humbled himself and became human. God gave up his throne to become sin. He humbled himself even death on a cross so that he could bring us back into friendship with him. This is the ultimate sacrifice that he did for us to bring us back to where he originally wanted us to be back in the Garden of Eden before the introduction of sin. Back in the Garden of Eden, God and Adam walked daily together in the garden. They talked together, and had a relationship. I want this more than anything, and I want everyone on this earth to know the God I know.

I understand what grace is. I am about to tell everyone about what I have done in my past. I do not deserve what God has done for all of us. If I was Catholic I would be excommunicated for what I have done. My wife and I during college not married conceived a child. We decided the best thing to do was have an abortion. I am a murderer and I regret that decision every day. I am sorry that I did that. God only knows how truely I am sorry about it. There is nothing I can do to get that back, but God has made a way back to him. God has given me his son, himself, so that I might live. Can you beleive that. I am a sinner, I am the worst sinner on this planet. God is bigger than I can ever say, but I can show how God has touched my heart. He has touched my life. This is what the Bible is talking about. It is not talking about works, but grace. A grace I do not deserve. God loves all of us, but all you have to do is ask him to come into your heart. He is faithful even though I am not. He is bigger than the Jehovah’s Witnesses would like to believe. God loves a sinner as big as me.

To anyone on here that will beat me up for what I have done can never hurt me more than I have hurt myself. When you hear me say I speak from the heart this is what I am talking about. The Three parts of God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have forgiven me. I have forgiven myself, so there is nothing you all can do to hurt me. Know that God is bigger than anything you can ever imagine. Until you have been as low as me, you might never know how much God loves you. I speak the truth and know the truth first hand. You too can know this truth and forgiveness. Jesus says, “I stand at the door and knock.” All you have to do is invite him into your heart. Repent of your sins, and ask him and he will come into your heart and you will know the salvation/heavenly hope that I have. To God be the Glory.