Anyone Else Suddenly Start Being Religious After 30?

Most of the spiritual battles that the Jews experienced during the OT times, were their worship of other gods and their idols. And the LORD punished them severely. They had clear understanding of the first two of the Ten Commandments.

I guess that’s why the “Buddhist Inquisition” was such a violent time in history, cartoonists who draw pictures of Hindu gods are hunted down and decapitated, and Jain monks are prolific child rapists.

Oh wait
 those are all Christian and Islamic atrocities committed by monotheists. Weird.

I think you will find that the “all Christian” were all Catholic. And yes Catholics are monotheists.

Buddhists have committed two genocides against Muslims in the last century. Hindus have massacred several other religions and regularly gang rape and murder untouchables and the entire police apparatus covers it up or worse burns the victims body before DNA can be taken to protect the upper caste rapists
 Mate what are you even talking about?

How many people were genocided and enslaved as chattel and raped and destroyed by Pagans from the Greeks, Romans, Indians, Mongols etc etc. Its way over a billion people.

You’re right. Humans associated with all sorts of belief systems have a propensity for acting terribly. Imagine that. My point was just that Monotheism is not protective against that behavior.

Additionally, if we added up the number of raped children and murders committed in the name of each religion and weigh them against one another, I think we can both agree that the monotheistic religions (Islam and Catholicism in particular) would win the title of “most evil”.

Assalamu’alaikum

Were you born into a Muslim family?

Why would those two even be in there, let alone front and center if belief in other gods wasn’t a thing, right?

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I don’t think either can hold a candle to the Mongols, who were quite certain that everything they did was God’s will. You can even look up some correspondence between a few Khans and The Vatican that makes this clear.

Otherwise you probably believe this notion in no small part due to the good record keeping of Christians and Muslims and their relatively recent emergence. We have limited records of the Assyrians, but those guys would brag about their religious atrocities. They carved depictions of it into their palace walls.

How many divinely inspired atrocities took place in tribal societies with no record keeping?

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No Bro. Are you Muslim?

Always hilarious hearing people accuse the monotheistic religions of doing the most harm then reminding the Alexander alone probably raped more people than the entirety of Christianity and Islam combined as he raced across Europe raping enslaving and genociding people.

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Excellent point. I was pretty transparently thinking about “modern” religions, which isn’t fair.

I guess nobody’s hands are clean and all religions are evil. You’ve convinced me. haha

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The point isn’t that only monotheists commit atrocities – the point is that monotheism pretty clearly doesn’t prevent atrocities, which is what you appeared to be claiming here:

If this statement were true, the difference in violence between monotheists, polytheists, and non-theists would be really stark. My point is that it isn’t.

Idols were first mentioned when Rachael stole Laban’s idols just before departing from Laban’s house.

Gen 31:19, “And Laban went to shear his sheep: and Rachael had stolen the images that were her father’s.”

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What about materialist beliefs seeing as nationalism, fascism and communism have killed more than any other religion in history?

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What about them? Those things are also bad. High rates of religiosity throughout the populations where they took hold did not prevent them. Once again, people do terrible things with or without religion.

So then why is religion evil if its just inn ate in people not their ideas?

So man, since this is kind of a getting to know you thread, care to tell us about that stabbing? It sounds pretty bad, but seems to have brought about your belief in something.

Like, what happened? How’d that go down, and how is your recovery from the injury?

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That comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek. However, religious belief does seem to be uniquely able to make otherwise good people behave in atrocious ways. This is more of a hunch though.

Would the Catholic bishops and deacons that worked so hard to protect child-raping priests done the same thing if they were assistant managers at Footlocker and found out their employees were behaving that way? Would the religious terrorists who shoot up abortion clinics still be doing that if they didn’t believe it was God’s will? Would Jihadists just find some other reason to bomb schools full of children if they stopped believing that it would guarantee them a spot in heaven? I honestly don’t know, but my intuition is that many of them would not.

Yeah I’m Muslim

What catholic doctrine caused boy rape amongst priests? Isn’t it more likely closeted homosexuals infiltrated the priesthood in order to molest boys? Considering homosexuality and rape are death penalty crimes in Christianity?