If you lack the desire to complete a degree aren’t you by definition “not cut out” for college?
I don’t disagree.
I don’t think that lack of desire always equates to ‘not cut out’. Could be why there are so many overweight people in the US. They don’t have a desire to be active or eat right…
No, not always.
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Best 7 years of my life lol.
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Sorry, didn’t mean to like that, was just scrolling through.
Anyways, if you don’t like hitting the books, hit the bricks. The bricks will make those books look a lot better pretty quickly. Most of the apprenticeship trades will pay enough that you can live decently and put yourself through night courses and online stuff later if it starts looking more like something you want to do. It also gives you a more realistic idea of what it means to work hard. After 10 years of tree cutting I started taking classes through winter and can tell you for a fact that 12 hour days of of ball breaking labor will make a few hours of classes and a few hours of homework/studying look like a walk in the park- If you have the mind for it.
You don’t have to be a bona fide genius to get through a curriculum, but you do need to be motivated and disciplined.
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Agree to disagree I guess. If I have no desire to deadlift I’m not cut out for powerlifting.
Tell that to Dave Tate, haha.
did any of you guys live on campus at a university. if so how did you pay for it. I have finanicial aid right now so my fafsa usually pays for all of my tuition. I usually use the rest of the money on books and save the rest. I could transfer to a university and go there and do the same thing but I wouldn’t have enough money to pay campus housing.
did you guys take loans as well. if so how long did it take to pay off your loans.
GI Bill, commuted, and pay for grad school out of pocket.
Wife did the FAFSA thing and we ended up with like $50K in loans. It’s worked out well for her and she’s more than made up for it in earnings at this point, but I’d figure your shit out before you get too deep in debt.
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Agree, I have way too many friends deep in debt because they changed majors like kids in the beginner forum change workout plans.
I lived with parents while in community college. During university, I lived out of my car part of the time and had an apartment the rest. I graduated without debt, because of scholarships and working full time. (It helped I didn’t pay rent while living in my car)
Dude. Samsies. All around. Stop it haha.
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College - best five and a half years of vacation!
Went to a state school back in the 80’s, tuition, room, and board was $2,100 per year. I took loans.
Then grad school, three times. I took loans.
I’m 52, just refinanced my house to pay off $85K in debt, some of it deferred from my undergrad.
But, I work 42 weeks a year and make six figures and will have a pension when I retire.
College - best five and a half years of vacation!
This is an interesting read thus far. Anyone here who didn’t go to college and doing well? I’m sure there are, I’d love to hear their experiences.
Read what twojarslave wrote.
Thanks, I must’ve glossed over that by accident.
Building a bit on what I wrote earlier…
Whether you go to college or not, the same principles for success apply. From a financial standpoint, you have to have SOMETHING that other people want from you. For all but a lucky few, it takes work to develop something marketable. On top of that, the value of whatever it is you are selling is always going to be equal to what someone else is willing to pay for it.
Going back to the example of my buddy, he spent about a decade of his life working as an independent plumber with human waste for 10-16 hours a day, 5-7 days per week. During this time he was not starving, but he was not thriving either. Fast forward to present, and plenty of people he knows see his nice home, fun toys and abundance of leisure time and say “You’re lucky!”.
There’s nothing lucky about spending much of your life literally covered in shit and the rewards you earn from that existence are just that - earned rewards.
Why are you purposefully trying to make yourself sound like a lucky, lazy piece of shit? Are you new here or something?
100% agree.
Mike Rowe is a big champion of earning trade skills and highlights a lot of success stories.
Not sure what I wrote that implies I consider myself lucky or lazy. Three graduate degrees aren’t the product of laziness or luck. The reference to undergrad being vacation is a reflection of my stupidity as a young man - I didn’t value that opportunity. Admittedly, my self deprecating tone doesn’t always translate in two dimensions, especially to the more concrete thinkers of the world. My apologies.
If you click on my avatar you’ll see I joined TNation in December of 2014, which does make me relatively new I expect.
Yeah, self-deprecation is pretty nuanced and difficult to recognize over the internet. I was trying to make a joke about how a lot of people here like to crow about how hard they worked for everything (hence the “are you new here” part), especially to younger posters like the OP, and your post made it seem like everything just fell in your lap. There’s usually more to it than that, obviously.
After reading it again, the “piece of shit” coup de grace makes it read more like an attack, rather than a joke, so I apologize.
See, it’s that whole nuance thing. And I can be a little slow in continuing to try to use a tone that doesn’t translate well.
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