[quote]thabigdon24 wrote:
Thunder:
I didnt explain my points clearly enough i’ll try again:
- If we hurt our relations with other countries , we just won’t be able to accomplish as much. They’ll wonder what we have up our sleeve’s the next time we want their help. I think that it is a wise thing to consider the impact our reputation will have on other contries before we make a decision.[/quote]
I agree - but I haven’t seen any evidence that we have genuinely hurt our relations with other countries. Little tantrums - the US included - don’t count.
Just as an FYI, more countries were on board in Iraq than in the Korean War.
[quote]2. The war on terrorism has really had 3 fronts so far and i will break down my point by front:
a. America
b. Afghanistan
c. Iraq
A. Gore and Kerry would have bitch slapped the CIA and FBI in the face like they needed and reformed everything just as bush did. By keeping america’s intelligence agencies and the dept of homeland security AND international relations good ( meaning that again the turban’d arabs won’t send fighters over to our land ) AND by fighting terror overseas when needed, we will prevail on this front.[/quote]
I have no way of believing this - you don’t say why. Weakness invites aggression, not the other way around - and while I can’t say for certain, the Democrat’s flirtations with pacifism don’t seem to me in the long-term to keep Islamists from sending fighters to our land. It didn’t stop them on 9/11.
But that isn’t the goal of Islamists - they like piles and piles of dead bodies of dead Arabs. That’s more ammunition to incite rage at the West. They have a very specific agenda - and they want to bring down the West whether we occupy an Arab country or not.
The inurgents would be there whether we invaded Iraq or not. The invasion of Afghanistan set off Islamist radicals all over the map. I don’t seriously think that Iraq added a substantial amount to the ranks, but I suppose that is something we can never measure.
As for Iraq destabilizing - there is a huge chance of that happening. The ME is no utopia. But, in my viem the status quo was not worth being left alone.
I don’t see them engaging in it either - nor do I see them, as I said before, calling the enemy by its name and sustaining a real war against them. I suspect that each of them would have fluffed his feathers early but over time each would have lost his taste for how real the problem is and settled back into either complacency or the self-loathing ‘they do it because it’s our fault’ business so common of the left of center. And that, in my opinion, is the difference. I want our policy to have no part of that pacifism or apologism, and I am afraid that both Gore and Kerry would have embraced that approach.
