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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
And please correct me if I’m wrong, but if it has to do with vampires then it’s definitely been done.

I mean even if it’s a story about a vamire that becomes a cop to fight vampires on the side of the law, then it’ll just be Lethal Weapon with vampires. If it’s set in the 28th Century on a spaceship then it’s Aliens VS Vampires.

Though I should mention that “nothing is original” is not trying to sound cynical. It’s OK and most writers (as well as audiences that try to act jaded) understand this and just try to tell a good story.[/quote]
While nothing is original is definitely true…or at least not much is original anyway…you are beyond correct with vampires. The genre is broken down to incredibly specific subgenres even. Rogue whatever you do with your vampire book, please please keep it out of the paranormal romance subgroup.[/quote]

wow. Im completely dumbfounded. where on earth did you get, that im writing about vampires? The book has nothing to do with vampires. stop going by what you hear a few morons say. [/quote]

You’re right my bad I just sort of assumed that was the genre and I shouldn’t have done that.

I’ve been thinking more about truly original fiction and imo, vintage Ellison was pretty solid. I really like a lot of William Gibson.
Some times though it seems works are analyzed to a point where it is ludicrous. While say …and I know they are fictionlized non fiction but I like Krakauer… Into the Wild and Into Thin Air while both can be boiled down to man versus nature that doesn’t tell the whole tale, and neither are the Old Man and the Sea. Its in the nuances that the differences can be seen and just because a topic has been done before doesn’t make it any less valuable or interesting necessarily.

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[quote]Stern wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
And please correct me if I’m wrong, but if it has to do with vampires then it’s definitely been done.

I mean even if it’s a story about a vamire that becomes a cop to fight vampires on the side of the law, then it’ll just be Lethal Weapon with vampires. If it’s set in the 28th Century on a spaceship then it’s Aliens VS Vampires.

Though I should mention that “nothing is original” is not trying to sound cynical. It’s OK and most writers (as well as audiences that try to act jaded) understand this and just try to tell a good story.[/quote]
While nothing is original is definitely true…or at least not much is original anyway…you are beyond correct with vampires. The genre is broken down to incredibly specific subgenres even. Rogue whatever you do with your vampire book, please please keep it out of the paranormal romance subgroup.[/quote]

wow. Im completely dumbfounded. where on earth did you get, that im writing about vampires? The book has nothing to do with vampires. stop going by what you hear a few morons say. [/quote]

Where is the book? I was looking on Amazon but can’t seem to find it. What’s it called again?

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I’ve said before that if someone said they’d shoot me if I didn’t write a novel in 6 months I’d shit my pants with the immensity of the task…but then if someone said I could write one of those diary-type books aimed at young women written by some upper-middle class rich college kid like David Eggers then I’d have it ready 5 and half months early.

I mean sci-fi? Unless you want me to write some shit about aliens invading or a guy invents a time machine then that genre is just too hard to do anything great unless you’re really really good.

A murder mystery? I’d suck at that. Fantasy? I’d just be incapable of anything but some shitty Lord of the Rings knock-off.

But yeah…some stream of consciousness pap about a woman coming to terms with her father’s alcoholism by taking a cooking class or some Eat, Love, Pray shit would be a cakewalk.

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[quote]Nards wrote:
I’ve said before that if someone said they’d shoot me if I didn’t write a novel in 6 months I’d shit my pants with the immensity of the task…but then if someone said I could write one of those diary-type books aimed at young women written by some upper-middle class rich college kid like David Eggers then I’d have it ready 5 and half months early.

I mean sci-fi? Unless you want me to write some shit about aliens invading or a guy invents a time machine then that genre is just too hard to do anything great unless you’re really really good.

A murder mystery? I’d suck at that. Fantasy? I’d just be incapable of anything but some shitty Lord of the Rings knock-off.

But yeah…some stream of consciousness pap about a woman coming to terms with her father’s alcoholism by taking a cooking class or some Eat, Love, Pray shit would be a cakewalk.[/quote]

I agree with you, but it depends for who you want to write.

I write for myself mostly, because I have ideas of characters spawned from real life, movies, books, etc. and I like to put them in certain situations, make them grow, improve, etc.
So if the plot is nothing shocking, it’s not so important.

Right now I want to write about a female version of Max Payne (videogame character, if you don’t know about him) in space station, adding some ambiguous mysticism.
I love how I got ideas, situations, dialogues, everything in my head, but when I open a new word document and I have to start writing, I get totally blocked.

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If I write I’m doing it with a Parker Jotter in a Hilroy.

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Alright, I’ll fess - I’ve written some poetry. Generally it was to go with photomanipulations I’d submitted regarding the fairytale I’ve been casually working on; just a few bits and bobs to build characters and whatnot. Great fun though. They’re often short enough that you don’t get bogged down with worrying about where they’re going.

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Everyone that’s talking about their writing should post some of it here!

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A couple of excerpts, chapter-headings from my story, basically giving some kind of insight to the chapter that follows:

It is written that at the root of all species there is a purpose.
For arachne, for instance, it is to master the weave,
for the aves; to master the air. For hominids it is merely to master.

If ever there was a purpose attributed to the Leaf-Eaters, however, it is long lost.
For nothing scribed has ever been recovered from the destruction in their wake.
Only legend and rumour exist…

…and even they are missing bite-sized portions.

Leaf 1880

Grinspoon’s Treatise on the Threats to Fey

‘Every action has a reaction. In the Fey both are
recorded by nature: the rock, the river, the roar
and root, no matter the complexity of detail. For any
who would look and listen for truth, it is there,
for nature has no ulterior motive and does not lie.’

Leaf 5

Grinspoon on the Origins of Mystery

and a poem I threw out to go with a really crap photshop piece called Dance of the Hairmaidens (hairmaidens are basically the Queen of Fey’s hairdressers who give her the gossip of Fey as they go about fixing her up in the morning.) Kids stuff really ^^

T’was a fine day, shoor, fir’ craftin Fey!
Moonbeams found the moosif spots
in shallow root and earthen spray,
this is t’where the hoppers got.

With their Ments’; brassy bound,
furled cravate and pincers cray
and sleeves that stretched straight to the ground:
they often played this way.

Well Fig was there and also Jade
and Efania with ribbons laced with br’aer
and to the tune they swooped and swayed
and prepped the lovely maiden’s hair.

But pesky bubbles off burbling broo
did lift a’ churning and threatened heft
the orchestra that played like mad
to recall a hovering treble clef.

The Maiden smirked
the hoppers heaved
the Fey pinned barbles of reality
and all the while ‘first violin’ chittered in secret maniacal glee…

As I said, it’s really kinda kid stuff, and sadly taking forever to write.

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I like it but am not able to properly state why. It has a good flow and well, yeah. I’ve never been good at studying literature but can only say if I like it or not.

It would be even better if I knew the context.

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I understood almost nothing of the second one, Stern. So I guess it’s very stylish and cool.

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[quote]Nards wrote:
I like it but am not able to properly state why. It has a good flow and well, yeah. I’ve never been good at studying literature but can only say if I like it or not.

It would be even better if I knew the context.[/quote]

This is the crap photoshop picture the poem belongs to. I put it together for inspiration in fleshing out a set piece at the beginning of my story. It was one of my early photoshop pieces so isn’t very good. =P

Edit - and you can’t really see it in that size but the orchestra are actually grasshoppers (my idea of male faeries are quite insect-like) however ‘first violin’ is a yellow jacket. =P

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[quote]Edevus wrote:
I understood almost nothing of the second one, Stern. So I guess it’s very stylish and cool.
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haha cheers! Yea, I took liberties in making up my own words inspired by Scottish slang and of course Jabberwocky, which still remains one of my favourite poems! ^^

“One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!”

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[quote]Stern wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
I like it but am not able to properly state why. It has a good flow and well, yeah. I’ve never been good at studying literature but can only say if I like it or not.

It would be even better if I knew the context.[/quote]

This is the crap photoshop picture the poem belongs to. I put it together for inspiration in fleshing out a set piece at the beginning of my story. It was one of my early photoshop pieces so isn’t very good. =P

Edit - and you can’t really see it in that size but the orchestra are actually grasshoppers (my idea of male faeries are quite insect-like) however ‘first violin’ is a yellow jacket. =P
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The idea that a poem goes “belongs” to a picture and that it involves bugs is blowing my mind…but I still like all of it!

It’s really too bad you didn’t join T-Nation a few months earlier…we could’ve met somewhere in Glasgow last Summer!
I guess next time!

If you’re on facebook, be my buddy : Redirecting...

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[quote]Nards wrote:
The idea that a poem goes “belongs” to a picture and that it involves bugs is blowing my mind…but I still like all of it!

It’s really too bad you didn’t join T-Nation a few months earlier…we could’ve met somewhere in Glasgow last Summer!
I guess next time!

If you’re on facebook, be my buddy : www.facebook.com/nardpuncher[/quote]

Aye, definitely hit me up the next time you’re in town and we’ll grab some pints and maybe even the biggest fish n chips in Britain lol ^^

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
I’ve said before that if someone said they’d shoot me if I didn’t write a novel in 6 months I’d shit my pants with the immensity of the task…but then if someone said I could write one of those diary-type books aimed at young women written by some upper-middle class rich college kid like David Eggers then I’d have it ready 5 and half months early.

I mean sci-fi? Unless you want me to write some shit about aliens invading or a guy invents a time machine then that genre is just too hard to do anything great unless you’re really really good.

A murder mystery? I’d suck at that. Fantasy? I’d just be incapable of anything but some shitty Lord of the Rings knock-off.

But yeah…some stream of consciousness pap about a woman coming to terms with her father’s alcoholism by taking a cooking class or some Eat, Love, Pray shit would be a cakewalk.[/quote]

I agree with you, but it depends for who you want to write.

I write for myself mostly, because I have ideas of characters spawned from real life, movies, books, etc. and I like to put them in certain situations, make them grow, improve, etc.
So if the plot is nothing shocking, it’s not so important.

Right now I want to write about a female version of Max Payne (videogame character, if you don’t know about him) in space station, adding some ambiguous mysticism.
I love how I got ideas, situations, dialogues, everything in my head, but when I open a new word document and I have to start writing, I get totally blocked.
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same thing happens to me. when you get ideas during the day, write them down.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Who are you writing for Skynett?

I’d be interested in seeing something different lately. I can also understand if you don’t want to put it up on here.
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I can’t post a link here to a “competitor site” - anyway it’s nothing really interesting for you - it’s just basic 400 - 500 word pieces on nutrition/fitness topics for the laymen.

Thanks for your interest though SkyzykS! : )

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[quote]Stern wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
The idea that a poem goes “belongs” to a picture and that it involves bugs is blowing my mind…but I still like all of it!

It’s really too bad you didn’t join T-Nation a few months earlier…we could’ve met somewhere in Glasgow last Summer!
I guess next time!

If you’re on facebook, be my buddy : www.facebook.com/nardpuncher[/quote]

Aye, definitely hit me up the next time you’re in town and we’ll grab some pints and maybe even the biggest fish n chips in Britain lol ^^

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If you’re talking about the Harry Ramsden Challenge then I’ve done it! OR are you taking the piss out of me after already seeing I’ve done it?

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[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]Stern wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
The idea that a poem goes “belongs” to a picture and that it involves bugs is blowing my mind…but I still like all of it!

It’s really too bad you didn’t join T-Nation a few months earlier…we could’ve met somewhere in Glasgow last Summer!
I guess next time!

If you’re on facebook, be my buddy : www.facebook.com/nardpuncher[/quote]

Aye, definitely hit me up the next time you’re in town and we’ll grab some pints and maybe even the biggest fish n chips in Britain lol ^^

[/quote]
If you’re talking about the Harry Ramsden Challenge then I’ve done it! OR are you taking the piss out of me after already seeing I’ve done it?[/quote]

Lol, aye you mentioned it when we were talking bout Scotland before. I didn’t realise it was Harry Ramsdens though?! I thought it was just some pub who claimed to serve the biggest fish n chips ^^

But…if the bug thing blew your mind, check this (it’s the perfect example of the whole “nothing is new” theory -

About 6 years ago I had an idea for a stopmotion animation. A very short film about, well, to just flesh out the bare bones of it it was about two trees in a public park who fall in love with each other. Each night a branch peels away from the trees and they meet, exchanging pleasantries and kissing etcetc however come dawn they have to run back to their respective trees before anyone sees them. After a while they become heartbroken as they can’t really do anything but (and this is how it ends, mind you I’ve omitted some info here) it ends with their trees growing so big over the years that the upper branches and roots finally entwine and they can at last be together. takes a breath…

SO…I was telling a close friend of mine, a guy who also writes (and in my opinion is very talented!) and about a year or so later he comes round and shows me this…

"I long to touch your tendril arms;
Tender-filled, and bast-kind eyes;
Listen to your whispered charms;
And kiss you as the soft wind sighs.
Though we can but barely meet;
Across this leafy place, so cold;
Devoid of love, this lonesome street;
The barrenness of places old.
But with this heart of oak of mine;
Our roots shall grow through earth and stone;
And there shall meet and close entwine;
Nevermore a time alone.

I long to share a gentle touch;
My doru love; I love so much."

…telling me he was inspired by my idea and wrote that and I was like “WHOA!”

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So…hehe I was looking through my Deviantart account last year and I came across his poem again and totally had an idea to flesh out what he had written with a picture. Now, keep in mind that this was my original idea, he had created a poem about and now I was about to create a picture further inspired by those words.

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[quote]Stern wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I understood almost nothing of the second one, Stern. So I guess it’s very stylish and cool.
[/quote]

haha cheers! Yea, I took liberties in making up my own words inspired by Scottish slang and of course Jabberwocky, which still remains one of my favourite poems! ^^

“One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!”[/quote]

Does it not defeat the purpose of poetry if you are making up the words?

This is a concept that I cannot grasp… why waste the time on this?