Peptide websites are all over and the science behind SARMS seems solid… But I don’t know anyone who has had any real success with them. Anyone of you find something you are getting good results with???
i haven’t used any peptides yet… i will prolly try out the oral hGH thing pretty soon, though (MK-677).
i have used Ostarine, and thought it was okay… it helped with strength and endurance, and i didn’t seem to be supressed at all. i did have a little bit of oily skin, though. i did a regular PCT afterwards as well, as it might be suppressive at the doses that BBers use (25 mg/day)…
Thanks for the info! Oral HGH? What kind of doses does one need to take for that to be effective?
TB 500 works well for some. I got a lot out of it. It’s great for injury recovery.
I have been very satisfied with every ostarine cycle I have have run. Excellent recomp effects and as long as you are putting in work and are careful about diet you will get fantastic results that are not as fleeting as the unmaintainable gains you get from AAS.
I have gained and kept around 3-5lb of lean mass from each ostarine cycle I have run, while shaving down some body fat, and in retrospect my SARM cycles have led to more lasting gains than the ups and downs of AAS use. It will suppress you slightly (at least it does for me), so make sure you have a SERM on hand. For me the sweet spot seems to be 6 weeks @ 20mgs, takes a little while to feel it kick in, but after a few weeks you will notice a difference.
[quote]RowsUpright wrote:
I have been very satisfied with every ostarine cycle I have have run. Excellent recomp effects and as long as you are putting in work and are careful about diet you will get fantastic results that are not as fleeting as the unmaintainable gains you get from AAS.
I have gained and kept around 3-5lb of lean mass from each ostarine cycle I have run, while shaving down some body fat, and in retrospect my SARM cycles have led to more lasting gains than the ups and downs of AAS use. It will suppress you slightly (at least it does for me), so make sure you have a SERM on hand. For me the sweet spot seems to be 6 weeks @ 20mgs, takes a little while to feel it kick in, but after a few weeks you will notice a difference.[/quote]
May I ask what your stats are? I tried ostarine awhile back and got nothing out of it at all. How advanced are you? any pictures, or perhaps your bodyweight and lifting numbers?
Yeah it seems like ostarine is hit or miss for some people. I’m about to be 30, 6’2" around 210-215lbs probably around 10-15% bf but I don’t really know. Based on your avatar I think I’m about as lean as you are (nice physique btw). In terms of how “advanced” I am that depends… I was a competitive athlete in college, I have been lifting for several years and implementing different approaches, huge fan of german volume training. My max lifts aren’t that impressive 405 squat, 315 sumo dead, 225 flat bench x10
[quote]RowsUpright wrote:
Yeah it seems like ostarine is hit or miss for some people. I’m about to be 30, 6’2" around 210-215lbs probably around 10-15% bf but I don’t really know. Based on your avatar I think I’m about as lean as you are (nice physique btw). In terms of how “advanced” I am that depends… I was a competitive athlete in college, I have been lifting for several years and implementing different approaches, huge fan of german volume training. My max lifts aren’t that impressive 405 squat, 315 sumo dead, 225 flat bench x10[/quote]
thanks for the detailed response. Your max lifts aren’t bad at all, I was just trying to get a general feel for your gym experience so I could rule out ‘beginner gains’ as the reason you thought ostarine worked for you. Placebo effect and whatnot. Sounds like it may be legit for some people, I just felt like I got absolutely nothing out of it. I’d like it to be more effective for me, something to run while off cycle. May give it another go from a different source at some point.
[quote]burtonjmclucas wrote:
Thanks for the info! Oral HGH? What kind of doses does one need to take for that to be effective?[/quote]
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]RowsUpright wrote:
Yeah it seems like ostarine is hit or miss for some people. I’m about to be 30, 6’2" around 210-215lbs probably around 10-15% bf but I don’t really know. Based on your avatar I think I’m about as lean as you are (nice physique btw). In terms of how “advanced” I am that depends… I was a competitive athlete in college, I have been lifting for several years and implementing different approaches, huge fan of german volume training. My max lifts aren’t that impressive 405 squat, 315 sumo dead, 225 flat bench x10[/quote]
thanks for the detailed response. Your max lifts aren’t bad at all, I was just trying to get a general feel for your gym experience so I could rule out ‘beginner gains’ as the reason you thought ostarine worked for you. Placebo effect and whatnot. Sounds like it may be legit for some people, I just felt like I got absolutely nothing out of it. I’d like it to be more effective for me, something to run while off cycle. May give it another go from a different source at some point.[/quote]
No worries, and from what I’ve read it doesn’t work for everyone. For me it was a easier cycle than test E (and don’t get me me wrong, I blew the *** up on test E and gained close to 10-15 lbs most of which I lost quickly after PCT even when keeping diet/trainig the same)
I hear great things about peptides but SARMs lower your test pretty low and pretty quick even at low doses. There are logs all over google. If you’re going to do it you might as well go all the way and do steroids. They’re cheaper and have more research done on them. I would try peptides but I’m not into using insulin pins multiple times a day.
[quote]bpbob wrote:
I hear great things about peptides but SARMs lower your test pretty low and pretty quick even at low doses. There are logs all over google. If you’re going to do it you might as well go all the way and do steroids. They’re cheaper and have more research done on them. I would try peptides but I’m not into using insulin pins multiple times a day.[/quote]
But why? You’re a bleeding pussy if you’re scared of pinning tiny little insulin pins and no one will trust you cos who the fuck trusts something that bleeds for 5 days and survives? Then you have to go wreck whatever is left of your teeny weeny raisins that were once balls by doing roids because you’re a cheap fuck who asks for change for a fifty from the stripper giving you a lapdance so you can give her a ten dollar tip.
Rage on!!!
Ok I’m sorry I was just joking. Couldn’t resist it lol.
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]bpbob wrote:
I hear great things about peptides but SARMs lower your test pretty low and pretty quick even at low doses. There are logs all over google. If you’re going to do it you might as well go all the way and do steroids. They’re cheaper and have more research done on them. I would try peptides but I’m not into using insulin pins multiple times a day.[/quote]
But why? You’re a bleeding pussy if you’re scared of pinning tiny little insulin pins and no one will trust you cos who the fuck trusts something that bleeds for 5 days and survives? Then you have to go wreck whatever is left of your teeny weeny raisins that were once balls by doing roids because you’re a cheap fuck who asks for change for a fifty from the stripper giving you a lapdance so you can give her a ten dollar tip.
Rage on!!!
Ok I’m sorry I was just joking. Couldn’t resist it lol.[/quote]
yeah what he said
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]bpbob wrote:
I hear great things about peptides but SARMs lower your test pretty low and pretty quick even at low doses. There are logs all over google. If you’re going to do it you might as well go all the way and do steroids. They’re cheaper and have more research done on them. I would try peptides but I’m not into using insulin pins multiple times a day.[/quote]
But why? You’re a bleeding pussy if you’re scared of pinning tiny little insulin pins and no one will trust you cos who the fuck trusts something that bleeds for 5 days and survives? Then you have to go wreck whatever is left of your teeny weeny raisins that were once balls by doing roids because you’re a cheap fuck who asks for change for a fifty from the stripper giving you a lapdance so you can give her a ten dollar tip.
Rage on!!!
Ok I’m sorry I was just joking. Couldn’t resist it lol.[/quote]
LOL!
[quote]bpbob wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]bpbob wrote:
I hear great things about peptides but SARMs lower your test pretty low and pretty quick even at low doses. There are logs all over google. If you’re going to do it you might as well go all the way and do steroids. They’re cheaper and have more research done on them. I would try peptides but I’m not into using insulin pins multiple times a day.[/quote]
But why? You’re a bleeding pussy if you’re scared of pinning tiny little insulin pins and no one will trust you cos who the fuck trusts something that bleeds for 5 days and survives? Then you have to go wreck whatever is left of your teeny weeny raisins that were once balls by doing roids because you’re a cheap fuck who asks for change for a fifty from the stripper giving you a lapdance so you can give her a ten dollar tip.
Rage on!!!
Ok I’m sorry I was just joking. Couldn’t resist it lol.[/quote]
yeah what he said[/quote]
I read this and thought angry bob posted it
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
[quote]bpbob wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]bpbob wrote:
I hear great things about peptides but SARMs lower your test pretty low and pretty quick even at low doses. There are logs all over google. If you’re going to do it you might as well go all the way and do steroids. They’re cheaper and have more research done on them. I would try peptides but I’m not into using insulin pins multiple times a day.[/quote]
But why? You’re a bleeding pussy if you’re scared of pinning tiny little insulin pins and no one will trust you cos who the fuck trusts something that bleeds for 5 days and survives? Then you have to go wreck whatever is left of your teeny weeny raisins that were once balls by doing roids because you’re a cheap fuck who asks for change for a fifty from the stripper giving you a lapdance so you can give her a ten dollar tip.
Rage on!!!
Ok I’m sorry I was just joking. Couldn’t resist it lol.[/quote]
yeah what he said[/quote]
I read this and thought angry bob posted it
[/quote]
I didn’t post it but I was thinking it.
As far as needles go, some drug users like to shoot their drug of choice, some don’t. I know drug addicts who snort pills and some who swallow them. I’m not saying oral steroids are my preference(none are) but being openly “cool” with multiple injections a day, or sticking needles in your ass, does not make you “hardcore” or cool. It makes you look desperate and thirsty for attention. Shooting up just so you can look like your man crush? You’re a bitch.
If your injured though, do what you gotta do. We all have to get paid.
BUTTTT if your injured, shoot up all you want. Every athlete has injures and being sidelined because of it sucks.
[quote]bpbob wrote:
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
[quote]bpbob wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]bpbob wrote:
I hear great things about peptides but SARMs lower your test pretty low and pretty quick even at low doses. There are logs all over google. If you’re going to do it you might as well go all the way and do steroids. They’re cheaper and have more research done on them. I would try peptides but I’m not into using insulin pins multiple times a day.[/quote]
But why? You’re a bleeding pussy if you’re scared of pinning tiny little insulin pins and no one will trust you cos who the fuck trusts something that bleeds for 5 days and survives? Then you have to go wreck whatever is left of your teeny weeny raisins that were once balls by doing roids because you’re a cheap fuck who asks for change for a fifty from the stripper giving you a lapdance so you can give her a ten dollar tip.
Rage on!!!
Ok I’m sorry I was just joking. Couldn’t resist it lol.[/quote]
yeah what he said[/quote]
I read this and thought angry bob posted it
[/quote]
I didn’t post it but I was thinking it.
As far as needles go, some drug users like to shoot their drug of choice, some don’t. I know drug addicts who snort pills and some who swallow them. I’m not saying oral steroids are my preference(none are) but being openly “cool” with multiple injections a day, or sticking needles in your ass, does not make you “hardcore” or cool. It makes you look desperate and thirsty for attention. Shooting up just so you can look like your man crush? You’re a bitch.
If your injured though, do what you gotta do. We all have to get paid.
BUTTTT if your injured, shoot up all you want. Every athlete has injures and being sidelined because of it sucks.[/quote]
I like this guy. He says what we’re all thinking.
Taking steroids to look good is super lame.
Thank you for your input on TB 500!
What type on injuries? Does it help with tendons? What are the doses?
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]burtonjmclucas wrote:
Thanks for the info! Oral HGH? What kind of doses does one need to take for that to be effective?[/quote]
25mg a day is worth checking out! Thanks!!
[quote]burtonjmclucas wrote:
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]burtonjmclucas wrote:
Thanks for the info! Oral HGH? What kind of doses does one need to take for that to be effective?[/quote]
25mg a day is worth checking out! Thanks!![/quote]
yup.
let us know how it works it you give it a trial…