Hey T nation
wondering if anyone has ran a cycle of bunk gear?? obviously without knowing it at the time! any sides from it?
i suspect i ran a 12weeka long cycle full of bunk gear and after ceasing shit sides got real and i dont know what the hell am i supposed to do.
So i need people of experience to share what they know about using fake gear
That’s a very vague question. No details about what or how you supposedly ran a cycle. No details on PCT. If it were just oil you wouldn’t be having sides after. Any labs?
It has been my experience that most cases of bunk gear are actually cases of bunk diet. Guys grossly underestimate their calorie needs during a bulk and then they don’t get the gains they expected because they didn’t eat to grow. In order to get actual fake testosterone you’d have to go out of your way to find it. Unless you found your source by googling “buy illegal sterons” and clicked the first link it’s pretty tough to get completely fake stuff.
i’m more than happy to post in full details.
I ran the following for 12 weeks
Test Pro Sustanon and Deca all together for 12 weeks, i definitely felt stronger and gained a total of 10kilos, the reason why i didnt suspect anything is because i felt strength and definitely some size but was less than i expected from the cycle.
i was also using anadrol ED
After coming off i did have a pct of Tomoxifin Aromasin and Hcg.
i started the post cycle 3 weeks after my last jab.
ran the hcg first 2500iu total per Week 500iu EOd for 4 weeks and used tomoxifin 40mg a day.
I ONLY RAN THE PCT FOR 3 weeks as i had to stop because thats when i knew something was definitely wrong, lethargy, no energy, loss of libido and sexual dysfunction.
Ran a blood test and my Total Testasteron was
Even higher than the normal range.
free test was in good range.
my E and P were in range.
NOW i’m at that point where i dont kmow weather everything thats happening is because of the bunk gear or something else.
Did you use HCG during the PCT or leading up to it?
You gained weight and strength… sounds like it wasn’t bunk gear, just a case of expecting more.
Ok, so not bunk gear.
How soon after you stopped the HCG and tamoxifen was this blood test?
If it was bunk, then you’d have no sides during or after the cycle
How much AI were you taking during your PCT? This sounds like the sides from crashed e2
40/40 tomoxifin and 25/25 aromasin but stopped them 2 weeks in.
my estrogen was slightly higher than the normal when i tested.
i’ve done my blood test during pct which was a 40 days ago
Well then it’s kind of meaningless as far as what it tells you regarding recovery. Your test levels are elevated because you’re taking drugs that elevate test levels.
Is this 25mg per week for 2 weeks or 25mg daily for 2 weeks?
25mg daily for 2 weeks
I always called the third week of PCT “turd week” cause I always felt like shit. But I always pushed through and felt fine once PCT was done.
Your PCT sounded a bit I’ll contrived though as including HCG and an AI during isn’t recommended and rarely necessary. I would’ve stuck to just Tamoxifen.
Sounds like your gear was legit; you just weren’t expecting the sides you encountered.