[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Just for you Mike. Once again:
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:<<< If we heterosexuals are so virtuous, >>>[/quote]You’re smarter than this. That is not what I said. Heterosexual hedonism has been and IS, far and away more destructive than homosexuality if for no other reason than sheer numbers. Gay marriage is simply a natural step in devaluing THE single component that most accounted for our rise and is now the direct cause of our fall. Gays can do what they want. I will not be kicking their doors down, but DO NOT attempt to sell that to me as marriage or a family. Reread the whole post please. All of it is required to get the message.
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Maybe I’m missing something. You’re suggesting that ‘THE single component that most accounted for our rise’ is heterosexual marriage?
I realize it was a page ago. Seemed pretty important to understanding your argument about America’s downhill course.[/quote]No, I’M not saying, the founders told us that religious morality was essential for their experimental government to work. Denying that the religious morality they were talking about was Christianity doesn’t pass the chuckle test. THE major social component of that morality was, is, the new testament model of monogamous marriage, family and sex. The God of the bible was recognized there and everywhere else. It’s simply false to say otherwise. Yes, that was the bedrock for absolutely everything else. While God was acknowledged and that family model was considered normative this country ascended on every level like no other in human history.
When that was abandoned in the 60’s the decline began immediately and is now in a full flaming tailspin.
I’m not typing this all over again (for the 100th time), but here from a few pages ago when somebody told me this would no appreciable effect on our future har dee har har.:
[quote]Tiribulus said on the last page: Gay marriage is the latest component in a national suicide that began in earnest in the 1960’s. It HAS AND IS having an appreciable effect. A devastating suicidal one. This country was built on the social/political/economic foundation of very limited public government through privately and voluntarily practiced Judeo-Christian morality.
Oh yes it was. Our founders clearly told us that. “The reason we can give you so few rules boys n girls is because you’re already so well behaved on the whole” to paraphrase in a nutshell. Even the total hypocritical pagans like Jefferson and Franklin clearly understood this.
The soil out of which new citizens grow is their family or lack thereof. Every single last issue killing this country is a direct consequence of that. The founders assumed that we would continue in the new testament model of one man and one woman for life wherein boundaries that engender self sacrifice, self control, decency, modesty and HONESTY in the act of upholding one’s vows because one’s word actually meant something. All of this was predicated upon the assumption that God designed it that way. That was the soil for new citizens they absolutely counted on for their experiment in self government to succeed and it did.
We skyrocketed into the most prosperous, powerful, feared and respected nation in all of human history over the course of a few generations BECAUSE despite our human foibles we were the most moral because we were the most Christian. Look at the soil our citizens are growing in now. Children of the hippies. Hedonistic, self obsessed, narcissistic, materialistic whores whose mission in life is bringing themselves the most pleasure in the most rapid fashion possible.
ALL the economic woes we are now in ARE, make no mistake, the consequence of the sexually moral degeneration of this nation’s citizenry resulting in the destruction of the foundational social unit upon which she was built and out of which her members are spawned. Even Stalin understood this. He told the world that the United Sates would never be defeated as long as she maintained her spirituality and hence MORality.
Wanna know what’s rotting this nation dead from the inside out like an oozing flesh eating virus? Go look in your Sex and the Male Animal forum. We will destroy OURSELVES to the snickering glee of our many enemies without a shot being fired, all in the name of getting laid. Gay marriage is just the latest chapter. [/quote][/quote]
