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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
I have to say that it is highly entertaining to see a proud Jew and someone who gets his anti gay talking points from, um, websites that are frequented by people that are extraordinairily proud of their, lets say, Caucasian heritage, arguing in unison.

I am positively enthralled.

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Yes, we understand “Heil, mein FÃ???Ã??Ã?¼hrer!”, Herrenvolk, and Nordicism. We get it.[/quote]

Exactly why I put Orion on ignore a long time ago. Anyone who would brag about (probably fake) Nazi ancestors and pretends to be from Austria is really sad.

For the record, I have no idea what he is talking about. The Center for Disease Control is hardly racist. I presume whatever site he is talking about went and got the same data that everyone uses.

And again, what appears to be lost, is the solution should be to remove marriage from the public realm completely. It’s a private religious or contractual (or both) matter. It should be legally irrelevant.[/quote]

Orion claimed Zeb put up something directly from Stormfront (a known neo-nazi/white power website…supposedly “the first white power website” or some-such).

I asked for someone to highlight it (cuz I’m lazy and didn’t catch it earlier). Orion didn’t, BUT…Zeb’s reply to my post certainly implies that he posted from the website and thinks it is an acceptable source when placed among others.

It appears no one else cares that Zeb is quoting/posting from stormfront. Or maybe everyone just has Orion on ignore by now.

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Oh hey Gambit, I see you have not been able to refute any of the information that was posted.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
I’m also curious what you are talking about, orion, regarding that original post being “on stormfront.org and sites of that ilk.” A quick google of a couple of different sentences from the post turned up nothing of the sort.

And, wouldn’t you know it, stormfront.org is a members only site.[/quote]

Thats not true, you can look at their threads, but maybe I am confusing them with vanguard or some such. The constant aafirmation of hatred against Jews, blacks and homosexuals kind of gave the general theme away.

Can you have a discussion on the price of milk AND shout your hate of everything Jewish out to the world? Because those guys certainly can.

Also, I was a tad surprised that Zeb did not jump on that immediately, BUT when he started to squirm and to defend his posts saying that just because something was from stormfront it was not necessarily wrong I obviously had to run with it.

Another point of interest would be that I seem to remember that Sexmachine posted that he wrote that little gem himself. I dunno, I never found one of my posts on a nazi website.

Will try to find threads I was looking at.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
I have to say that it is highly entertaining to see a proud Jew and someone who gets his anti gay talking points from, um, websites that are frequented by people that are extraordinairily proud of their, lets say, Caucasian heritage, arguing in unison.

I am positively enthralled.

[/quote]

Yes, we understand “Heil, mein FÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¼hrer!”, Herrenvolk, and Nordicism. We get it.[/quote]

Exactly why I put Orion on ignore a long time ago. Anyone who would brag about (probably fake) Nazi ancestors and pretends to be from Austria is really sad.

For the record, I have no idea what he is talking about. The Center for Disease Control is hardly racist. I presume whatever site he is talking about went and got the same data that everyone uses.

And again, what appears to be lost, is the solution should be to remove marriage from the public realm completely. It’s a private religious or contractual (or both) matter. It should be legally irrelevant.[/quote]

Orion claimed Zeb put up something directly from Stormfront (a known neo-nazi/white power website…supposedly “the first white power website” or some-such).

I asked for someone to highlight it (cuz I’m lazy and didn’t catch it earlier). Orion didn’t, BUT…Zeb’s reply to my post certainly implies that he posted from the website and thinks it is an acceptable source when placed among others.

It appears no one else cares that Zeb is quoting/posting from stormfront. Or maybe everyone just has Orion on ignore by now.

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No, what I claimed was that by googling certain passages that seemed to be copy and pasted you immediately had predominantly white power sites in your result list.

The hilarious part was when he refused to adress the issue and finally came out with something like “hey, that does not mean its wrong!!!1!”, which leads me to believe that chances are that that is exactly where he gets some of his stuff from.

Not that that necessarily makes anything he claims wrong, BUT if you are so desperate for homophobic propaganda that you sift through stormfront and likeminded websites some serious soul seaching is in order.

In my opinion.

Should Jewbacca then pile on top of it, reiterating his firmly held belief that I have a Hitler bust right next to my computer, which stems from the fact that he got his ass handed to him when he claimed that Israel has never deliberately targeted civilians and that he just cannot stomach the fact that he is a willfully ignorant cunt, ergo, I must be a nazi, I am indeed thoroughly entertained.

And yes, if someone calls me a nazi with no proof whatsoever when I am questioning stormfront as a source he has clearly demonstrated that he has abandoned reality and substituted it with the voices in his head and I think “willfully ignorant cunt” just about sums that attitude up.

But, since English is not my first language, I am open to suggestions as to how to describe such a dick.

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You are being rather, ahem, generous in your description of “googling certain passages.”
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There it is:

://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=68153&page=4

I did not put the http in front of it because I do not think Biotest would appreciate a direct link to vanguard whatever, post by psychologicalshock.

Those are word for word the same passages, the same arguments (all satyrs, lol, those scientists are homosekshuls, therefore their argument is invalid), expect for a different format it is practically the same post.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

Oh hey Gambit, I see you have not been able to refute any of the information that was posted.[/quote]

Hey Zeb, I have generally avoided “arguing” with you since you posted the cut-and-paste about how central bankers are using gay marriage to take over the world (or however it went).

As a general rule, I don’t engage with those who post from stormfront, or who don’t immediately condemn the site. If you didn’t post from it, my apologies. However, your post seemed to state that there is “nothing wrong” with using that source among others.

Have a nice day.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
I had no idea at the time where sex machine got the info. But I will reiterate, if the facts are true, and they are to the best of my knowledge as they’re backed up by more reputable web sites–WHO CARES?[/quote]

I assume you’re talking about my posts on Greek pederasty. I sourced the material from many different websites over the years. Greek/Macedonian nationalist sites, articles on historical revisionism and Christian sites challenging biblical and historical revisionism. Never been to stormfront in my life. That’s a site I only seem to hear about from the orion for some reason.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
I had no idea at the time where sex machine got the info. But I will reiterate, if the facts are true, and they are to the best of my knowledge as they’re backed up by more reputable web sites–WHO CARES?[/quote]

I assume you’re talking about my posts on Greek pederasty. I sourced the material from many different websites over the years. Greek/Macedonian nationalist sites, articles on historical revisionism and Christian sites challenging biblical and historical revisionism. Never been to stormfront in my life. That’s a site I only seem to hear about from the orion for some reason.[/quote]

Have you looked at the link I posted?

Because someone has done the exact same research as you and posts it in very similar manner .

So maybe you have never heard of white power websites buy they have either heard about you and take great interest in your scholastic endeavours or they have members who have ways of collecting sources and posting them that are eerily similar to your own.

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[quote]orion wrote:

There it is:

://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=68153&page=4

I did not put the http in front of it because I do not think Biotest would appreciate a direct link to vanguard whatever, post by psychologicalshock.

Those are word for word the same passages, the same arguments (all satyrs, lol, those scientists are homosekshuls, therefore their argument is invalid), expect for a different format it is practically the same post.

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Why are you lying orion? There is no ‘word for word’ same passages in that link. It’s a discussion between forum members and one of them brings up satyrs and says that they were considered ‘evil’ and ‘immoral’. Whilst this is true, the person who said it on your link uses completely different phraseology.

Here is my phrase: ‘evil and degenerate demons’

Here is the phrase that the orion managed to find on yet another Nazi website that I have never visited:

‘The “evidence” is of satyrs who were considered EVIL and IMMORAL by Greeks.’

Not ‘word for word’ same passage orion. Completely different. Fail.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
I have to say that it is highly entertaining to see a proud Jew and someone who gets his anti gay talking points from, um, websites that are frequented by people that are extraordinairily proud of their, lets say, Caucasian heritage, arguing in unison.

I am positively enthralled.

[/quote]

Yes, we understand “Heil, mein FÃ???Ã??Ã?¼hrer!”, Herrenvolk, and Nordicism. We get it.[/quote]

Exactly why I put Orion on ignore a long time ago. Anyone who would brag about (probably fake) Nazi ancestors and pretends to be from Austria is really sad.

For the record, I have no idea what he is talking about. The Center for Disease Control is hardly racist. I presume whatever site he is talking about went and got the same data that everyone uses.

And again, what appears to be lost, is the solution should be to remove marriage from the public realm completely. It’s a private religious or contractual (or both) matter. It should be legally irrelevant.[/quote]

Really?

Just the faintest connection to a post that was widely published on neo nazi websites shut you up quite nicely, thank you and since that is your usual MO, I am positively thrilled about it.

So, if you cannot post any links to my “bragging about my nazi ancestors” why dont you get a nice big cup of shut the fuck up and meditate over the fact that your views on homosexuality are at least in part shared by people who would, and already have, gassed people of your religious affiliation right along with them.

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This:

‘They were not that high in the chain of command’

Nazis exterminated homosexuals. There’s a big difference between opposing the gay ‘rights’ agenda/historical revisionism and advocating/committing the extermination of gays. The Nazi dogma was all hypocritical bullshit like Islam anyway. Many leading Nazis were homosexuals and the SA was full of homosexuals and its leader Ernst Rohm was notorious. One of the main reasons traditionalists in the Wehrmacht opposed the SA was because of the rampant homosexuality in the ranks.

From wikipedia:

‘This horrified the army, with its traditions going back to Frederick the Great. The army officer corps viewed the SA as a brawling mob of undisciplined street fighters and were also concerned by the pervasiveness of homosexuality and ‘corrupt morals’ within the ranks of the SA’

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[quote]mazzic1083 wrote:
just tell all the straight people to stop having kids, they’re the ones who have gay sons and daughters[/quote]

You point out a very good talking point. Only ‘straight’ – a man and a woman – can have children.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
I have to say that it is highly entertaining to see a proud Jew and someone who gets his anti gay talking points from, um, websites that are frequented by people that are extraordinairily proud of their, lets say, Caucasian heritage, arguing in unison.

I am positively enthralled.

[/quote]

Yes, we understand “Heil, mein FÃ???Ã??Ã?¼hrer!”, Herrenvolk, and Nordicism. We get it.[/quote]

Exactly why I put Orion on ignore a long time ago. Anyone who would brag about (probably fake) Nazi ancestors and pretends to be from Austria is really sad.

For the record, I have no idea what he is talking about. The Center for Disease Control is hardly racist. I presume whatever site he is talking about went and got the same data that everyone uses.

And again, what appears to be lost, is the solution should be to remove marriage from the public realm completely. It’s a private religious or contractual (or both) matter. It should be legally irrelevant.[/quote]

Really?

Just the faintest connection to a post that was widely published on neo nazi websites shut you up quite nicely, thank you and since that is your usual MO, I am positively thrilled about it.

So, if you cannot post any links to my “bragging about my nazi ancestors” why dont you get a nice big cup of shut the fuck up and meditate over the fact that your views on homosexuality are at least in part shared by people who would, and already have, gassed people of your religious affiliation right along with them.

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You mean Catholics? You mean the Pope that was praised by the Israeli Ambassador? You mean the German Bishops who publicly excommunicated any active Nazi party members in Feb '31?

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
I have to say that it is highly entertaining to see a proud Jew and someone who gets his anti gay talking points from, um, websites that are frequented by people that are extraordinairily proud of their, lets say, Caucasian heritage, arguing in unison.

I am positively enthralled.

[/quote]

Yes, we understand “Heil, mein FÃ???Ã??Ã?¼hrer!”, Herrenvolk, and Nordicism. We get it.[/quote]

Exactly why I put Orion on ignore a long time ago. Anyone who would brag about (probably fake) Nazi ancestors and pretends to be from Austria is really sad.

For the record, I have no idea what he is talking about. The Center for Disease Control is hardly racist. I presume whatever site he is talking about went and got the same data that everyone uses.

And again, what appears to be lost, is the solution should be to remove marriage from the public realm completely. It’s a private religious or contractual (or both) matter. It should be legally irrelevant.[/quote]

Orion claimed Zeb put up something directly from Stormfront (a known neo-nazi/white power website…supposedly “the first white power website” or some-such).

I asked for someone to highlight it (cuz I’m lazy and didn’t catch it earlier). Orion didn’t, BUT…Zeb’s reply to my post certainly implies that he posted from the website and thinks it is an acceptable source when placed among others.

It appears no one else cares that Zeb is quoting/posting from stormfront. Or maybe everyone just has Orion on ignore by now.

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I am sure CDC is used by racists, people use whatever they can find to show their hatred even if the whatever is legitimate.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
stormfront.org is a members only site.[/quote]

lol

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I must say that this scheme how United Gay Historians have maipulated the academic world to make everybody gay has eerily the same flavour as the supposed jewish plans for world dominion, both seem to have their main target on the downfall of the white man :confused: How handy.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
I have to say that it is highly entertaining to see a proud Jew and someone who gets his anti gay talking points from, um, websites that are frequented by people that are extraordinairily proud of their, lets say, Caucasian heritage, arguing in unison.

I am positively enthralled.

[/quote]

Yes, we understand “Heil, mein FÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?¼hrer!”, Herrenvolk, and Nordicism. We get it.[/quote]

Exactly why I put Orion on ignore a long time ago. Anyone who would brag about (probably fake) Nazi ancestors and pretends to be from Austria is really sad.

For the record, I have no idea what he is talking about. The Center for Disease Control is hardly racist. I presume whatever site he is talking about went and got the same data that everyone uses.

And again, what appears to be lost, is the solution should be to remove marriage from the public realm completely. It’s a private religious or contractual (or both) matter. It should be legally irrelevant.[/quote]

Really?

Just the faintest connection to a post that was widely published on neo nazi websites shut you up quite nicely, thank you and since that is your usual MO, I am positively thrilled about it.

So, if you cannot post any links to my “bragging about my nazi ancestors” why dont you get a nice big cup of shut the fuck up and meditate over the fact that your views on homosexuality are at least in part shared by people who would, and already have, gassed people of your religious affiliation right along with them.

[/quote]

You mean Catholics? You mean the Pope that was praised by the Israeli Ambassador? You mean the German Bishops who publicly excommunicated any active Nazi party members in Feb '31? [/quote]

There was no recorded excommunication, if those rumors floating around the interwebz are true the best that you can argue for is an interdict, which is not the same.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

There it is:

://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=68153&page=4

I did not put the http in front of it because I do not think Biotest would appreciate a direct link to vanguard whatever, post by psychologicalshock.

Those are word for word the same passages, the same arguments (all satyrs, lol, those scientists are homosekshuls, therefore their argument is invalid), expect for a different format it is practically the same post.

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Why are you lying orion? There is no ‘word for word’ same passages in that link. It’s a discussion between forum members and one of them brings up satyrs and says that they were considered ‘evil’ and ‘immoral’. Whilst this is true, the person who said it on your link uses completely different phraseology.

Here is my phrase: ‘evil and degenerate demons’

Here is the phrase that the orion managed to find on yet another Nazi website that I have never visited:

‘The “evidence” is of satyrs who were considered EVIL and IMMORAL by Greeks.’

Not ‘word for word’ same passage orion. Completely different. Fail.[/quote]

The exact same arguments, using the exact same passages and the format is different because it is a discussion - sort of.

Anyhow, I put up a link, people should be able to make up their own minds.

Also, I was searching for the word “etairese” in conjunction whith a few other keywords because I wanted to know how accurate the translation was because the whole post reeked like sloppy translation.

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“hetairos” (plural hetairoi) means “comrade”. without any sexual connotation.
“hetairese” means “prostitution”.
“hetairis” = a female prostitute.

“aidôs” means “shame, modesty” but i can’t find any reference to an “Aido” Goddess.

i didn’t check the translation of the quoted passages. I already translated way too much Plato when i studied philosophy.

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[quote]kamui wrote:
“hetairos” (plural hetairoi) means “comrade”. without any sexual connotation.
“hetairese” means “prostitution”.
“hetairis” = a female prostitute.

“aidÃ?´s” means “shame, modesty” but i can’t find any reference to an “Aido” Goddess.

i didn’t check the translation of the quoted passages. I already translated way too much Plato when i studied philosophy. [/quote]

So Aechines wrote that former male prostitutes should not be allowed to hold public office and that somehow was transformed into everyone having gay sex is unfit for office?

Mmmmhhhh…

Now I know why I actually found the word at that site, even the spelling mistakes are the same.

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[quote]kamui wrote:
“hetairos” (plural hetairoi) means “comrade”. without any sexual connotation.
“hetairese” means “prostitution”.
“hetairis” = a female prostitute.

“aidôs” means “shame, modesty” but i can’t find any reference to an “Aido” Goddess.

i didn’t check the translation of the quoted passages. I already translated way too much Plato when i studied philosophy. [/quote]

I was using Anglicised spelling. The Greek goddess Aedos/Aidos:

‘She was the personification of Modesty or Shame’

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

There it is:

://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=68153&page=4

I did not put the http in front of it because I do not think Biotest would appreciate a direct link to vanguard whatever, post by psychologicalshock.

Those are word for word the same passages, the same arguments (all satyrs, lol, those scientists are homosekshuls, therefore their argument is invalid), expect for a different format it is practically the same post.

[/quote]

Why are you lying orion? There is no ‘word for word’ same passages in that link. It’s a discussion between forum members and one of them brings up satyrs and says that they were considered ‘evil’ and ‘immoral’. Whilst this is true, the person who said it on your link uses completely different phraseology.

Here is my phrase: ‘evil and degenerate demons’

Here is the phrase that the orion managed to find on yet another Nazi website that I have never visited:

‘The “evidence” is of satyrs who were considered EVIL and IMMORAL by Greeks.’

Not ‘word for word’ same passage orion. Completely different. Fail.[/quote]

The exact same arguments, using the exact same passages and the format is different because it is a discussion - sort of.

Anyhow, I put up a link, people should be able to make up their own minds.

Also, I was searching for the word “etairese” in conjunction whith a few other keywords because I wanted to know how accurate the translation was because the whole post reeked like sloppy translation. [/quote]

Load of old cobblers. I’ve actually posted my exact words and the exact words at your Nazi forum. The link is there. You’re utterly ridiculous.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
I have to say that it is highly entertaining to see a proud Jew and someone who gets his anti gay talking points from, um, websites that are frequented by people that are extraordinairily proud of their, lets say, Caucasian heritage, arguing in unison.

I am positively enthralled.

[/quote]

Yes, we understand “Heil, mein FÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?¼hrer!”, Herrenvolk, and Nordicism. We get it.[/quote]

Exactly why I put Orion on ignore a long time ago. Anyone who would brag about (probably fake) Nazi ancestors and pretends to be from Austria is really sad.

For the record, I have no idea what he is talking about. The Center for Disease Control is hardly racist. I presume whatever site he is talking about went and got the same data that everyone uses.

And again, what appears to be lost, is the solution should be to remove marriage from the public realm completely. It’s a private religious or contractual (or both) matter. It should be legally irrelevant.[/quote]

Orion claimed Zeb put up something directly from Stormfront (a known neo-nazi/white power website…supposedly “the first white power website” or some-such).

I asked for someone to highlight it (cuz I’m lazy and didn’t catch it earlier). Orion didn’t, BUT…Zeb’s reply to my post certainly implies that he posted from the website and thinks it is an acceptable source when placed among others.

It appears no one else cares that Zeb is quoting/posting from stormfront. Or maybe everyone just has Orion on ignore by now.

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It’s not that we don’t care about Zeb getting his anti-gay material from blatantly biased sites like NARTH. It’s that despite being called on it over and over again, he never changes his tactics and people eventually just roll their eyes and ignore him. Even when he does quote from a valid website like the CDC, he twists the data to draw conclusions that they do NOT draw, and that in fact are directly CONTRADICTED by every major health organization (American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, etc.). It’s old, tired, and most of us are done feeding the troll.

That said, I think Cortes makes a good point about casual followers of these threads who may be influenced by what is posted here. They may take this crap at face value without knowing any better. For that reason, I suppose it’s important to continue posting the actual facts AND the valid conclusions based on those facts, per the major health organizations. I’ll post some information on that shortly, for anyone that is genuinely interested in knowing the truth.