sure
The 9.6 one was previous bloods, the one after shows shbg and is more recent
9.6 is below 300 ng/dL and in my opinion is clearly hypogonadal
Thanks mate I’m gonna have another test at some point to see if it’s raised from 10.8, which us what it was last time, still hypogonadism? How do we get doc to do something then or just best to go private???
if tis any help, my total T was around 1100ng/DL and the dutasteride i took 6 months ago for 1 week made me completely impotent even to this day… and I had over 2k total T at the time I took the dutasteride and 240ng/dl free T… so DHT plays a role in penile health that is independant from T’s role in the penis tissue. in order to get erection you don’t really need that much T anyways as shown in studies
What were your symptoms? and have you had any improvements bro?
Sorry do you mean me or ygb350 bruda?
Sorry ygb350, do you mean you can still have erections with low T? What are you doing at the moment for your low T? And are you considered as hypogonadal? What are you doing to help this please?
No sorry, my T was high . very high total T and free T middle of the range. shbg high, and still waiting for my estradiol results. The truth is, it doesn’t matter where these values are for me. I am affected by finasteride syndrome, so nothing matters about my ranges anymore. The receptors dont work, like a state machine, i have been switched from 0 to 1. This switch includes lack of libido, genital numbness etc… classic PFS/PAS/PSSD symptoms. Also I have penile pain and i think fibrosis forming even with high T. The reason was DHT removed from fin, cause lack of NOS and vegF in the penis… even T alone cannot replace the function of DHT. so the result is fibrotic tissue formation, even in a couple weeks of using … so nothing can help me now except pray for miracle… believe in cells can recover. I take proviron to try supplement a dht in the penis , and i feel it help with some symptoms.
Other than this, i try get ULTRASOUND and MRI of penis to confirm if i have fibrosis. sadly canada have shit health, waiting 6 months still for a specialist appointment with urologist… i will be old men when this is finally finished.
what i do now is 30-60 minutes a day of 40 degrees celsius rice sock on my cock, 1-2x a day… cialis 5mg every day, proviron 25mg every 6hrs , and lots of sleep and some cardio and eat good. thats all i know for now. Maybe some experimental techniques can help us like shockwave therapy, PGE1 injections, anything to increase angiogenesis in the penis
@ygb350 Are your problems from finasteride instead of deca?
Yes from finasteride but the side effects are so similar, it’s basically sharing some mechanisms. Or it causes a systemic body crash from neurological to sexual to organ, bone, various dysfunctions. 19-nor are progestins and dihydro nandralone out competes dht at the receptor site… Essentially this means penile tissue is starved of dht. We know nandralone is toxic for endothelial cells asm shown from rat studies . We need to check if penis became fibrotic as a result
@ygb350 Do guys with post finasteride syndrome have adrenal problems/ adrenal dysregulation?
some certainly do. some have their gut biome completely altered for the worse. Some people did have their adrenals completely fucked by 5AR inhibitors.
have a look in this thread
@ygb350 They definitely have their similarities but also some big differences - I haven’t heard of anyone with physical changes from deca dick. Physical changes seem common among PFS sufferers.
My theory is that all of the deca dick guys have adrenal problems - the only 100% recovered deca dick guy that I know of recovered by correcting adrenal issues and waiting. I have also made some progress by correcting adrenals. I don’t see much success with correcting adrenals for PFS guys but I could be wrong.
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Thank you so much for the update. Struggling with the same, im two years in without improvement, bloodworks keeps improving though so I will hold on for a year or two before considering TRT.
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