I take 1200mg RYR, 2g Krill Oil, and used Niacian for a year but have since stopped.
My LDL went from 268 to 170. My diet has always been good, I have never been over 13% body fat in my life, I changed NOTHING but those medications and my numbers got significantly better.
Thankfully, from what I have read in the last few years. It sounds as though folks with true generic high cholesterol are at less risk than those who have high cholesterol due to unhealthy life styles. Things like your plaque scan are not uncommon with folks with familial high cholesterol.
But it is nice seeing the number lower on my lipid tests.
Iāve heard the same, however for someone with a stressed liver be it from orals or something else, hasnāt TUDCA been shown to help? I canāt remember for the life of me where I read itā¦ could be BS, but vaguely remember seeing larger doses of Tudca helping with liver damage associated with excessive drinking. Please donāt quote me, I read random shit late at night and rarely remember it all.
So if someone is having liver issues and not on orals, could it still help? Or still advise against it?
Yes, my numbers did not rise at all once dropping the niacin. The flush I got used toā¦ however I ran out, didnāt take it for a while, retested, and my numbers were the same, and have been over the course of my last 3 tests. So I never started the niacin back up.
Krill Oil is similar to Fish Oil which I used to take 4g of daily. From my research, it seemed as though krill Oil was superior and thus enabled me to take lower doses as well.
Itās related to the backing up of the bile ducts in the liver and how TUDCA helps alleviate that. So I imagine if you have some issue caused by that particular process then it could help. Beyond that I cannot speak with any authority.
Thanks @unreal24278 Iāll try this. I already use a lot of curcumin in my cooking. Iām looking at trying some Masteron to go with my 150mg/wk TRT protocol. At my age this might be a bad idea. But Iād like to experiment a little between cycles.
Not to derail this thread, sorry OP, If this forum offered a PM system I would be using that platform. @studhammer what would you recommend for a weekly dose? I was thinking 200 -300 mg/wk. I currently do 75mg T cyp. Mon and Thurs.
Was thinking 100-150mg of mast at the same time. Your thoughts/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
My estradiol is 48. I was taking .5 mg of astrozole 3x per week. Pinning 200mg of test a week split on Monday and Thursday. Iām switching to 3x a week and dropping the AI to .25mg 3x per week and then wait for my next blood work to see where iām at.
150mg mast would equate to a cruise dose of 300mg/wk, while mast isnāt as potent regard to overall anabolic potency when compared to test, the jury is still out regarding overall long term effects. Iād keep an eye on lipids, PSA (anecdotes have stipulated mast may be harsh on the prostate within those predisposed)
I loved mast, the libido I had on it was insane, dried me out and may have contributed to my joint pain flaring up dramatically though (that or my test dose was waaaaayyyyy too low for me (it was at the time, was using a dose where Iād consistently be around 450ng/dl)
Whether or not itās a good idea depends on youāre individualistic outlook on life and what pertains significance to you, itās undoubtedly not a āhealthyā decision, however it may be worth it for whatever reason using said compound at x dose significantly improves your quality of life to the point of which the extra risk is deemed worth it. Iām not one to tell you whether or not the risk is worth it as thatās an individual choice based on ones own beliefs and values.
Iām starting a test cycle (high dose, 340mg/wk, 375 for first 2 wks, short cycle 200mg test E+ 140mg test prop weekly total length 6-7 wks) to me as an individual (after reviewing all the existing literature and data) the quantitative risk is worth it as there are benefits for me to reap both acute and long term, however i adknowledge that my decisions now will likely and ultimately turn out to be lethal in the long run.
On other boards this would get your crucified. Thatās why it is so hard for me to jump on my first cycle because it is almost impossible to be sure what is accurate or not.
Iāve been on a board that ripped a guy apart for saying āhe felt greatā so he didnāt think he needed an AI. Everyone got on him saying āfeelingā doesnāt matter, what matters is blood results.
Think about that logically for a moment. So if his number was low due to AI usage, but he felt like dog shit, that would be okay? Numbers, and ārangesā are so vague and vary so much because everyone is different. Everyone has different natural levels, and everyone responds differently to different hormones.
What do these guys on other pages say is so bad about higher estrogen IF no sides are present and the user feels great?
āFuture detriment to your healthā ā¦ what does that even mean? If someone can not explain specifically what temporary elevated E2 does to your body long term, iād tend to believe theyāre just speaking out of their ***.
The guys here from what I have gathered are not anti AI. Theyāre against using AI prematurely, as many people absolutely do not need it while on basic cycles.
I tend to agree with you, and others on here. I think it should be a combo of blood work and how you feel since thereās no published studies on this.
In your opinion what would push you to start using AI? what would you have to feel?
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1557988314539000
2014
I feel this is a bit outdated, but this study was done on men using AIās while on TrT or AASās.
They try to say that age is directly correlated to E2 conversion for the fact of accumulating body fat vs lean body mass. This could also be related to Low T, diets, and lazy life styles.
There are challenges in setting up a guideline for the threshold beyond which AI and SERM are to be used, as there are no evidence-based studies at this time to guide the practice.
Iām only on my third cycle, so plenty of more knowledgeable guys on here.
However, first cycle I ran aromasin at 12.5mg every other day. I felt like dog shit and has no clue why, as I listened to people on other pages. I was only running Test E 500mg a week.
Second cycle I ran same cycle, with DBol 30mg for 4 weeks. I ran zero AI and felt amazing all cycle. I also recovered quicker and better. No clue if the recovery had anyThing to do with it but I definitely felt better quicker after PCT.
Iām on my third cycle now. I am running Test E 500mg a week, and 50mg of anavar weeks 8-14. Around week 4 I started having extreme irritability, like throw a child across a room irritability. I have two young kids, and steroids are not more important than my family, so I jumped on AI to experiment. 12.5mg aromasin every 3.5 days, basically I take it with my injection. It has been the perfect medium. If I wait an extra day to take my aromasin, Iām ready to beat someone.
This is why guys say it varies. Clearly one cycle I was fine without; and this cycle I truly feel like I benefit from it and feel great. In future cycles, I will ALWAYS start with no AI and only add if I feel itās necessary. Minor nipple discomfort or very minor bloat I donāt mind.
Thereās just no set dosage of AI that fits everyone. So smartest thing is to figure out first if you even need it. Many people do not, and it becomes a waste of money and unnecessary drugs in your system.
