Anna Nicole Smith Dead

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[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
Maybe you could give a brief synopsis of just how valuable she was to us as a society and then I will consider some sympathy for her.
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What the hell are you talking about? People don’t have to be “valuable to society” to deserve human compassion you dipshit.

You do realize how few people fail to qualify under your criteria? You also realize how many people have positions of power and prestige and abuse that fact – but apparently have “value to society”?

Grow up.

I’m not singing her praises in any capacity.

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[quote]WS4JB wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
Trimspa baby!!!

Man, i know she was a bit weird, but still, a young mother died, shes been through some stuff, i cant help but feel bad for her. I wonder if maybe she died of a broken heart, I hear that her and her son were really close, and to have him die the way he did, in the same room she had just given birth to, was enough to seriously wack somebody in the head.

I just hope that child is taken care of proper.

–JB[/quote]

You know,you’re right. Looking back,she had a daughter that she left behind.
I wish Paris Hilton had of died instead.

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[quote]RJ24 wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
RJ24 wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
You know the world is in a sad state when someone who falls to addiction (allegedly) is laughed at instead sympathized with.

I don’t agree with that. If you’re weak enough to get addicted to something and then kill yourself with it, you’re asking for it. I don’t sympathize with drug addicts in the least.

Having said that, I do feel sorry for the children left behind. It’s not fair for someone to screw up their own life without thinking of their child.

I wish I was perfect like you. Then maybe life would be so easy.

I don’t claim to be perfect, but I do claim to be better than to fuck up the lives of my family with a substance abuse problem.

Every such vice (addiction to smoking, alcohol, narcotics) is just a weakness that should not be tolerated, let alone pittied. People need to step the fuck up and take responsibility for their actions.

And sorry for the language, but this is a topic I feel strongly about.[/quote]

One of the more ignorant things I’ve read on this site, but, hey, at least you feel strongly about it.

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
RJ24 wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
RJ24 wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
You know the world is in a sad state when someone who falls to addiction (allegedly) is laughed at instead sympathized with.

I don’t agree with that. If you’re weak enough to get addicted to something and then kill yourself with it, you’re asking for it. I don’t sympathize with drug addicts in the least.

Having said that, I do feel sorry for the children left behind. It’s not fair for someone to screw up their own life without thinking of their child.

I wish I was perfect like you. Then maybe life would be so easy.

I don’t claim to be perfect, but I do claim to be better than to fuck up the lives of my family with a substance abuse problem.

Every such vice (addiction to smoking, alcohol, narcotics) is just a weakness that should not be tolerated, let alone pittied. People need to step the fuck up and take responsibility for their actions.

And sorry for the language, but this is a topic I feel strongly about.

One of the more ignorant things I’ve read on this site, but, hey, at least you feel strongly about it.[/quote]

Okay, could you explain to me how thinking people who screw up their lives with addictions are weak is ignorant?

The only people who ever fall prey to such problems are those who aren’t mentally strong or grounded enough to deal with their current situation/life on their own. If you think addictions aren’t a weakness, then I don’t know what to say.

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[quote]RJ24 wrote:

Okay, could you explain to me how thinking people who screw up their lives with addictions are weak is ignorant?

The only people who ever fall prey to such problems are those who aren’t mentally strong or grounded enough to deal with their current situation/life on their own. If you think addictions aren’t a weakness, then I don’t know what to say. [/quote]

It’s ignorant because life isn’t black and white as you’d obviously like to believe. There are many shades of grey.

And who are you to judge anyhow?

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[quote]singram wrote:
EmperialChina wrote:
singram wrote:

Yes,it is sad and tragic,and some of these jokes are harsh,but unlike Belushi,Elvis or even Chris Farley,what talent did she have to become a celebrity?Being a playboy model,hustling a 90 year old billionaire,showing how dense she was on a reality show,being fucked up on drugs at a awards show showing her fake tits?I don’t hate her and its more the medias fault for making this flawed character and turning her into a celebrity,but this happens to many druggies everyday and destroys the families who care for them.I wish the media and people who worship celebrity would focus on the downside of people like this and not celebrate the party,drug fueled behavior.But hey,that wouldn’t sell pappers.I hope her daughter turns out alright.

Who made her a celebrity?

I don’t think the media can sell people something that a majority of people don’t want.

Look at reality TV shows which glamourize negative behavior…is it really just the media? Or are they supplying what many people want.

I have to disagree I think the media made her “negative” side pretty well known and through editing and marketing were able to “enhance” and exploit it even further. It’s crafted as a tool almost.

Read all my post,the media wouldn’t “celebtrate” her if people didn’t want to buy or watch dirt on her.It goes hand and with the the media in dumbing down America.Look at most commercials,the male or father figure is usually the dumb goofy clueless person who is schooled by his wife and kids.The media sets the agenda and most people follow it like lemmings.I’m guilty of it,I bought a People mag.last summer to read about Mel Gibsons drunkin foolish behaivor.yes,I’m embarassed about it,I looked around to make sure nobody saw me,it was like buying porn :)[/quote]

I see your point now bro’ sorry about any misinterpretations.

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[quote]Sxio wrote:
RJ24 wrote:

Okay, could you explain to me how thinking people who screw up their lives with addictions are weak is ignorant?

The only people who ever fall prey to such problems are those who aren’t mentally strong or grounded enough to deal with their current situation/life on their own. If you think addictions aren’t a weakness, then I don’t know what to say.

It’s ignorant because life isn’t black and white as you’d obviously like to believe. There are many shades of grey.

And who are you to judge anyhow? [/quote]

I don’t judge, however I also don’t feel pity for those who screw themselves over. So, while I don’t feel bad, I’m sorry that a human life was lost, I just have a hard time feeling compassion for the idiot who killed themself.

And what do you mean life isn’t black and white, sure there are gray areas, but this isn’t one of them. I’m pretty sure we can all agree that drug addiction = bad, and that behind each and every addiction there is a person lacking the willpower and common sense to stop what they’re going through.

People who claim addiction is a disease and they have no power over it are just making excuses. Same goes for the people who claim they had no other way out. Nobody is forcing drugs upon you, you’re choosing to take them, and that means you aren’t a victim, you’re a dumbass.

It seems as if people nowadays don’t want to accept responsibility for their actions. If this is indeed the case, I can’t wait to see where this world is heading.

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[quote]RJ24 wrote:
Sxio wrote:
RJ24 wrote:

Okay, could you explain to me how thinking people who screw up their lives with addictions are weak is ignorant?

The only people who ever fall prey to such problems are those who aren’t mentally strong or grounded enough to deal with their current situation/life on their own. If you think addictions aren’t a weakness, then I don’t know what to say.

It’s ignorant because life isn’t black and white as you’d obviously like to believe. There are many shades of grey.

And who are you to judge anyhow?

I don’t judge, however I also don’t feel pity for those who screw themselves over. So, while I don’t feel bad, I’m sorry that a human life was lost, I just have a hard time feeling compassion for the idiot who killed themself.

And what do you mean life isn’t black and white, sure there are gray areas, but this isn’t one of them. I’m pretty sure we can all agree that drug addiction = bad, and that behind each and every addiction there is a person lacking the willpower and common sense to stop what they’re going through.

People who claim addiction is a disease and they have no power over it are just making excuses. Same goes for the people who claim they had no other way out. Nobody is forcing drugs upon you, you’re choosing to take them, and that means you aren’t a victim, you’re a dumbass.

It seems as if people nowadays don’t want to accept responsibility for their actions. If this is indeed the case, I can’t wait to see where this world is heading.

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I agree, sure there are “grey areas” in life, but this one is pretty fucking simple, these aren’t people stealing loaves of bread for their staving kids here, these are people stealing their kids bread to feed their habit.

All this who are you to judge, i spose you’re perfect crap is a load of bullshit. Who am I to judge? I’m someone not sticking a needle in my arm, yeah no ones perfect but I won’t be showing any sympathy for someone thats fucked themselves over, all I’m saying is people dont have to be perfect or angels, just not be a fucking worthless junkie, and thats not alot to ask.

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[quote]RJ24 wrote:
Sxio wrote:
RJ24 wrote:

Okay, could you explain to me how thinking people who screw up their lives with addictions are weak is ignorant?

The only people who ever fall prey to such problems are those who aren’t mentally strong or grounded enough to deal with their current situation/life on their own. If you think addictions aren’t a weakness, then I don’t know what to say.

It’s ignorant because life isn’t black and white as you’d obviously like to believe. There are many shades of grey.

And who are you to judge anyhow?

I don’t judge, however I also don’t feel pity for those who screw themselves over. So, while I don’t feel bad, I’m sorry that a human life was lost, I just have a hard time feeling compassion for the idiot who killed themself.

And what do you mean life isn’t black and white, sure there are gray areas, but this isn’t one of them. I’m pretty sure we can all agree that drug addiction = bad, and that behind each and every addiction there is a person lacking the willpower and common sense to stop what they’re going through.

People who claim addiction is a disease and they have no power over it are just making excuses. Same goes for the people who claim they had no other way out. Nobody is forcing drugs upon you, you’re choosing to take them, and that means you aren’t a victim, you’re a dumbass.

It seems as if people nowadays don’t want to accept responsibility for their actions. If this is indeed the case, I can’t wait to see where this world is heading.

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Dont be too quick to judge drug addicts. People use drugs to escape from their reality for a reason. Who knows what theyre dealing with in their heads.

Imagine if it was youre son or daughter that got caught up in drugs. I’d hope you’d help them not turn your back on them because you think theyre weak.

Some peoples values are all messed up. They just need to be inspired again.

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[quote]RJ24 wrote:
Okay, could you explain to me how thinking people who screw up their lives with addictions are weak is ignorant?[/quote]Because you’re working under the assumption that everyone’s brain functions exactly like yours & therefore if you succeed and they don’t that it is because of your strength and their weakness.

I’m not saying that every single person who has ever developed an addiction was a victim of circumstance and unfortunate brain chemistry, I’m just saying be careful before you hold yourself up on a pedastal.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Andrew Dixon wrote:
Imagine if it was youre son or daughter that got caught up in drugs. I’d hope you’d help them not turn your back on them because you think theyre weak.

A very good point. Some of you guys act like all you need to do is just be strong and say “No” to drugs, and to a greater extent, I agree, BUT, everyone has their breaking point IMO.

Imagine that you lost your loving familly in a house fire, and then lost your job because you took too much time off work, then your last remaining parent dies, and you are effectively left alone because you were always a bit of a loner. You can’t get a job because your old field was too specialised. You have trouble sleeping and you start becoming psychotic and ‘detatched’.

Your doctor prescribes medication and soon you become dependant upon it, which is when he stops prescribing it. What are you gonna do then tough guy? Just ‘man up’ and be strong? I’d like to see that 'cos it would certainly be inspirational, however I think, just like 99.9999% of people you would crumble and turn to drink at the very least.

But thats OK because you wouldn’t expect any sympathy from anyone. Have a little compassion for those who are not as strong as you claim to be. [/quote]

Agreed. Most people need help from others at some time in their lives. When that help is not available it is a roll of the dice-an unknown-as to where that person turns. You tend to fall back upon your past experiences, the fortunate find religion,others fall much harder.

What is truly telling in this tragedy is the amount of energy devoted to the reporting and discussion of her life. Ninety percent of us would have predicted that this is the way she’d end up anyway.

On a positive note, I know a family who has taken in three young men whose parents have abandoned them.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
She was a dumbass skank that took to many pills, what’s the big deal? She sounded half stoned everytime I heard her.

I know people from Mejia, TX her hometown. She was a stripper that married an old rich guy and is now dead. I don’t see how this is news.[/quote]

Hopefully your “friends” can set you straight on how to spell Mexia.

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[quote]37hits wrote:
The redneck queen has passed. I will be forever heart broken…[/quote]

Hey there, li’l trailer park buddy, don’t be sad. You still got Britney!

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[quote]RJ24 wrote:
Okay, could you explain to me how thinking people who screw up their lives with addictions are weak is ignorant?

The only people who ever fall prey to such problems are those who aren’t mentally strong or grounded enough to deal with their current situation/life on their own. If you think addictions aren’t a weakness, then I don’t know what to say. [/quote]

First, I don’t think people with addictions necessarily deserve to die. Second, not everyone with an addiction is someone who just decided to go out and try a recreational drug. There are many ways an addiction can develop. I’m not saying it’s not a weakness. I’m saying that sometimes good people make mistakes, need help, and don’t deserve to die because of a weakness.

It’s not as black and white and cut and dry as you make it. It’s not all about junkies in the alley.

Speaking of junkies in the alley, I would argue that many of them don’t deserve to just die either. A lot of them probably had no chance in life in the first place. Try to look at things from outside your perfect world once in a while.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
etaco wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
You know the world is in a sad state when someone who falls to addiction (allegedly) is laughed at instead sympathized with.

You know the world is in a sad state when the death of a C level celebrity trumps news of war, peace, and the affairs of state which affect the lives of every man women and child on this earth.

It is all over the news. I think it is getting more coverage than Ford’s death. Pathetic.[/quote]

Sad but kind of expected…look at the Mother Theresa/Princess Di comparison they died in the same month and mother Theresa (who did uncountable good deeds) received barely any attention, whereas their still talking about Princess Di(who did what again???) and doing studies into trying to figure out whether or not it was murder or just a car accident(what a great place to put money, forget curing aids/cancer/whatever)…talk about screwed up

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
etaco wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
You know the world is in a sad state when someone who falls to addiction (allegedly) is laughed at instead sympathized with.

You know the world is in a sad state when the death of a C level celebrity trumps news of war, peace, and the affairs of state which affect the lives of every man women and child on this earth.

It is all over the news. I think it is getting more coverage than Ford’s death. Pathetic.

I think she needs a holiday named after her.[/quote]

Money Grubbing Whore Day sounds about right.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
etaco wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
You know the world is in a sad state when someone who falls to addiction (allegedly) is laughed at instead sympathized with.

You know the world is in a sad state when the death of a C level celebrity trumps news of war, peace, and the affairs of state which affect the lives of every man women and child on this earth.

It is all over the news. I think it is getting more coverage than Ford’s death. Pathetic.

I think she needs a holiday named after her.[/quote]

People might go for it. Playmates need a day too

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
RJ24 wrote:
Okay, could you explain to me how thinking people who screw up their lives with addictions are weak is ignorant?

The only people who ever fall prey to such problems are those who aren’t mentally strong or grounded enough to deal with their current situation/life on their own. If you think addictions aren’t a weakness, then I don’t know what to say.

First, I don’t think people with addictions necessarily deserve to die. Second, not everyone with an addiction is someone who just decided to go out and try a recreational drug. There are many ways an addiction can develop. I’m not saying it’s not a weakness. I’m saying that sometimes good people make mistakes, need help, and don’t deserve to die because of a weakness.[/quote]

It’s not even a weakness. Lif-long addicts may be some of the strongest-willed people you’ve ever met.

Go-getem folks, who never had to rely on anyone make the worst addicts, because they don’t know how to ask for help. Getting help is the key to getting better. If you are a true addict, the chances of cleaning up “on your own” are very slim.

Addicts are often highly-intelligent, driven people (I’m not sure were ANS falls in all this). To equate addiction with weakness is ignorant.

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[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
37hits wrote:
The redneck queen has passed. I will be forever heart broken…

Hey there, li’l trailer park buddy, don’t be sad. You still got Britney![/quote]

How true!