How many birthdays is that again?
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
You live just down the road from me, Olee, in a manner of speaking. One of these days I’ll stop by for a photo shoot and we’ll post up a TN thread with pics of you and me being all chummy and such.
Then we’ll go hunting somewhere and kill some critters, roast their livers on a stick over a campfire, frame the pic and mail to Veggie-except-for-bbq-burgers-Rogue for his birthday.[/quote]
sorry, i don’t believe nor celebrate birthdays. [/quote]
Wait, you don’t believe in birthdays? How do you have fun in life?
Charlie giving me a “head hug” while I’m studying. BTW, he’s been fully flighted for years and chooses to spend the majority of his time hanging out on or near my boyfriend and I. He generally picks up his food and carries it over to eat on us, which is why meal times are the only time he is locked in his cage (generally with a little bit of our healthy foods in his dish) when we’re home. There’s nothing to ruin a meal like crumbles down the back of your shirt.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
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[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
[quote]Stern wrote:
Ooh interesting debate.
For clarification Vicomte, and let’s just remove the cute doggy from the scenario for the moment and focus on the deer, are you suggesting that the following two hunters are fundamentally the same?
Hunter Bill who goes out with his son and waits/stalks patiently before getting a clean kill whereupon, with pride, they return home; gut, skin and share their bounty across the dinner table with the rest of the family.
Hunter Dave who goes out with his son and waits/stalks patiently before purposefully shooting a deer in the ass and then tracking it to the spot where it lies lamed. There they poke it with sharp sticks till it’s bleeding profusely and before it’s dead they hang it from a tree and watch as the life ebbs out of it’s twitching body. Proud, they return home empty handed and show pictures to their mates of their handiwork.
One of the above hunters is following a primal tradition that some would argue played a major role in the evolution of our species. The other is doing nothing of the sort.
It’s all about motive. The hunter who hunts for food, the sadist who goes out to cause suffering just for the sake of suffering and the merciful who puts down an animal who is surely suffering are all entirely different entities. I would say the differences here are hardly arbitrary.
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I already ran this thing out in the other animal thread, so I’ll keep this brief.
We’re talking about torturing versus killing an animal, not torturing/killing versus killing.
Now, while their may be differences in the motives of the humans in question, to the deer, motive is completely irrelevant. The deer is having a fucked day no matter what.
Ignoring the motives (which, again, have absolutely no relevance to the deer), I’m saying killing is worse than torture that does not result in death, as they are both unnecessary in this modern day and age. Difference being hunting is considered socially acceptable, whereas torture is not. Either way, still fucking sucks for the deer.
Does that make sense? I really don’t have the energy.[/quote]
Hunting is socially acceptable cause of the mistaken belief that humans are superior to animals. its not socially acceptable to me and never will be. its murder, simple as that. [/quote]
do you eat meat?
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ON rare occasions i do. yes, Im a miserable human, and im a hyprocrit. I admit it. But, whether or not i choose to eat meat, will have little effect on the meat industry. While I realize there maybe good reasons to hunt, I still hate the fact that a beautiful animal is being killed. [/quote]
lol
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You can be the most ardent animal rights activist that ever lived, and id bet at some point in thier lives, they ate meat. sometimes, its unavoidable. [/quote]
Sure, go ahead, but don’t eat meat and use that same whore mouth to say that people that hunt should be murdered.
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
I think it all comes down to his “my willpower is so strong, if I don’t believe in aging, then I shall not age.” bullshit
he’s such an inspiration
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth[/quote]
Must suck being RV’s daughter and seeing all the other kids getting presents on their day of birth. =(
[quote]Stern wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth[/quote]
Must suck being RV’s daughter and seeing all the other kids getting presents on their day of birth. =(
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Na he is probably Jehovah Witness anyway.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth[/quote]
Good point.
Hey RV, what about your daughter? Do you do anything to celebrate her birthday? Have you ever?
You’re a sick son of a bitch if your daughter has never gotten to have a birthday party, just because you don’t believe in them.
Edit: LOL @ stern writing basically what I was writing, only faster
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Stern wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth[/quote]
Must suck being RV’s daughter and seeing all the other kids getting presents on their day of birth. =(
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Na he is probably Jehovah Witness anyway. [/quote]
Now you mention it he does have that ‘preacher’ quality.
[quote]Stern wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Stern wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth[/quote]
Must suck being RV’s daughter and seeing all the other kids getting presents on their day of birth. =(
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Na he is probably Jehovah Witness anyway. [/quote]
Now you mention it he does have that ‘preacher’ quality.
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Next he will ask to come in and tell you about Jebus
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
Edit: LOL @ stern writing basically what I was writing, only faster[/quote]
Hahah sorry man. I’ll edit it if you want? I’m not about the glory or anything 
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Stern wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Stern wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth[/quote]
Must suck being RV’s daughter and seeing all the other kids getting presents on their day of birth. =(
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Na he is probably Jehovah Witness anyway. [/quote]
Now you mention it he does have that ‘preacher’ quality.
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Next he will ask to come in and tell you about Jebus[/quote]
And tell me “picking your nose is a cardinal sin and all sinners will be damned to an eternity of coal shoveling!!!” whilst picking his nose?
[quote]Oleena wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
You live just down the road from me, Olee, in a manner of speaking. One of these days I’ll stop by for a photo shoot and we’ll post up a TN thread with pics of you and me being all chummy and such.
Then we’ll go hunting somewhere and kill some critters, roast their livers on a stick over a campfire, frame the pic and mail to Veggie-except-for-bbq-burgers-Rogue for his birthday.[/quote]
sorry, i don’t believe nor celebrate birthdays. [/quote]
Wait, you don’t believe in birthdays? How do you have fun in life?[/quote]
Age is something that is used against people. Ageism is alive and well in this country and I want no part in it. People judge you based on your age. People have a different opinion of a guy whos 25 and one whos 55. I refuse to be a part of that whole process. Age is a man made concept. or how we look at age. I don’t agree with it.
If a person hears your age and if they think your of a certain age, they will call you old, or something along those lines. we are judged by a mere chronological Number. A girl will not speak to you, based on your age, if they consider you “to old” for her. even though she maybe attracted to you and have things in common. age is used against people in every form.
There is one way of getting around that, never tell anyone your age. nobody has their age stamped on their forehead, so your whatever age you say you are.
[quote]Stern wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
Edit: LOL @ stern writing basically what I was writing, only faster[/quote]
Hahah sorry man. I’ll edit it if you want? I’m not about the glory or anything
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Haha, I don’t care. Derek’s all about the glory…glory hole, that is.
NTTAWWT…of course.
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
I think it all comes down to his “my willpower is so strong, if I don’t believe in aging, then I shall not age.” bullshit
he’s such an inspiration [/quote]
I believe that aging is mostly in your mind. Think about all the brainwashing that happens everyday. by the medical community, by your dr. its everywhere. If you don’t think your mind plays a very strong role in how your body reacts, you may need to google “the placebo affect” its a well known phenomina, if a person beleives he’s getting a medicine to help their condition, even if its sugar pills, it almost always has some effect. and thats without really even tapping into your mind.
I say aging is bullshit.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth[/quote]
Why celebrate something that is used against us. Its something people judge you on. its something society in genereal judges you on.
and its all man made. how we look at time itself is all man made. calendars, days of the week, seconds, minutes, hours is all manmade.
[quote]Stern wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
How do you not believe birthdays?
“Hey RV, my birthday is January 23rd, I’ll be 42. Wanna catch a vegan beer or something?”
“Sorry man, I don’t believe that it’s your birthday, so no. Liar.”
wtf?[/quote]
Lets analyze the word.
Birth- when a child is delivered into this world. Was RV ever born? Is he human at all?
Day- when there is sunlight. or 12:01 AM being a marker for time
Birthday- a marker for the annual time of your birth[/quote]
Must suck being RV’s daughter and seeing all the other kids getting presents on their day of birth. =(
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lol. I don’t force my beliefs on my daughter. of course i buy her things for her birthday. But she also knows my feelings on the matter.