since I hate needles I wanted to ask you what you think of this cycle that I want to start
androtest of fusion (pro-hormone that converts to test) 75 mg + proviron 50 mg divided into two portions throughout the cycle to maximize testosterone and to avoid gynecomastia
6 weeks of cycle
nb .: nothing for the liver because non-methylated products and I will take something only for pressure and something for cholesterol;
after 6 weeks from the following day 3 weeks of novaldex 10 mg per day + arimistane 75 mg per day
Androtest is just not going to work for you. Before I got on trt I tried one of those “andro” products. I figured that it would be useful to have a data point. My test went from the low 300’s to the low 400’s. So it does something but not enough to justify the cost.
Now maybe it’ll be enough to keep the suppression at bay, but that’s almost beside the point with your particular plan. Proviron will absolutely not give you any appreciable muscle increase. That’s just not what it’s for. If your plan is to suppress your natural testosterone, not replace it, and make gains from another steroid, then proviron isn’t going to help you.
You hate needles. Totally understand. I do too. I still can’t get blood drawn without loading up on benzos. Yet I pin myself twice a week and it’s not an issue. You get used to it very quickly. If you aren’t willing to use a needle then steroids are not for you. Sure you can use orals and try to get some gains here and there, but the reality is that you’ll never really hold much of the gains you end up making. It’s too long of an explanation as to why, but there’s a reason nobody recommends oral-only cycles.
No. He is saying that that pro hormones don’t deliver any kind of appreciable results. Further, they are known to cause suppression. Proviron… same thing. It won’t make you muscular and has its a place as a cycle supplement but not a main staple. More or less don’t waste your time on this plan.
The only prohormones that really deliver results are either c-17AA compounds which convert to active hormones within the body, of which many of the unconverted metabolites have anabolic and androgenic activity within themselves, designer steroids and unmethylated hormones of which are prohormones but have anabolic activity within themselves like 1-androstenedione.
Methyl 1 androstenedione
1-androstenediol
Prostanozolol
There’s a bunch of 19-nor phs aside from the precursor to trest that’d likely be effective
Problem is no literature on these compounds = only way to gauge acute risk is by looking at anecdotes and there’s no way to gauge long term risks aside from looking at chemical structure and comparing to similar AAS, however we know even a slight alteration in structure can dramatically change an anabolic steroids effects, think Dbol vs eq. Furthermore anecdotes will differ as everyone reacts to these compounds differently
That hasn’t worked, unfortunately (for phlebotomy; for a normal draw it’s more than sufficient). So now I take a beta blocker and it works just fine. We’ll see if it’s enough for my next phlebotomy.