Andro and Prohormones

Pharma
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[quote]JoeyD20 wrote:
Okay, no one else has said this but:

You’re 5’11 215 at 8% BF, and you are only 18. You are a genetic monster in my eyes. Ride it out. From just the picture I can tell that much.

Stay off the drugs for a while, because, as I said before, you have fucking unbelievable genetics.[/quote]

I second that, if thats you in your avatar I find it shocking your that size and only 18 and not taking drugs. You might have a myostatin mutation you lucky asshole. Hope you win Mr. Universe in 6 years.

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[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Dude, I remember we went through this whole fucking scenario before with you quite some time back. Your mom’s a doctor etc, etc. Everyone told you what to do then, you never listened to us, now you’re back with the same shit all over again. On one thread you said it was pubertal gyno, and on another you never answered the question. Now you’re here taking some shit you don’t know shit about, which could potentially make the gyno worse, without asking the vets about it BEFORE you started taking it and want help again.

    This time listen to wtf these guys are telling you and stop acting like a kid. We all told you to lay off the steroids/hormones etc., and told you what to do about the gyno and you still kept saying how your mommy thought it was a bad idea etc, and didn't listen to a damn thing.

                   Jesus.

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why dont you chill out bro, i decided not to do anything about it then i got the andro and the nolva, was told not to take the andro here, and then asked what fucking dosages i should take of the nolva so chill out bud, and i fucked up by taking the adro alright, on the bottle it didnt sayWARNING; check with T-Nation vets before use. alright so lay off, im gonna try the nolva and see whats up. thanks for the unhelpful response.

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[quote]HunterKiller wrote:
JoeyD20 wrote:
Okay, no one else has said this but:

You’re 5’11 215 at 8% BF, and you are only 18. You are a genetic monster in my eyes. Ride it out. From just the picture I can tell that much.

Stay off the drugs for a while, because, as I said before, you have fucking unbelievable genetics.

I second that, if thats you in your avatar I find it shocking your that size and only 18 and not taking drugs. You might have a myostatin mutation you lucky asshole. Hope you win Mr. Universe in 6 years.[/quote]

haha thanks

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[quote]Dylanj wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Dude, I remember we went through this whole fucking scenario before with you quite some time back. Your mom’s a doctor etc, etc. Everyone told you what to do then, you never listened to us, now you’re back with the same shit all over again. On one thread you said it was pubertal gyno, and on another you never answered the question. Now you’re here taking some shit you don’t know shit about, which could potentially make the gyno worse, without asking the vets about it BEFORE you started taking it and want help again.

    This time listen to wtf these guys are telling you and stop acting like a kid. We all told you to lay off the steroids/hormones etc., and told you what to do about the gyno and you still kept saying how your mommy thought it was a bad idea etc, and didn't listen to a damn thing.

                   Jesus.

why dont you chill out bro, i decided not to do anything about it then i got the andro and the nolva, was told not to take the andro here, and then asked what fucking dosages i should take of the nolva so chill out bud, and i fucked up by taking the adro alright, on the bottle it didnt sayWARNING; check with T-Nation vets before use. alright so lay off, im gonna try the nolva and see whats up. thanks for the unhelpful response.

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Nolva isn’t going to do anything for your gyno at this point. Again, you are taking something which will screw with your hormones without adequate understanding of what you are doing. The reason people are frustrated with you is exactly because of these kinds of actions.

You were told before, if you wanted to avoid surgery, to try letrozole. Your options are that, or surgery. And I have to say that I honestly don’t believe that you even have gyno. If your avatar pic is any indication, your “gyno” is nothing to be worried about, certainly not to the degree that you are willing to fuck up your hormones putting all kinds of different drugs into your body.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
Dylanj wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Dude, I remember we went through this whole fucking scenario before with you quite some time back. Your mom’s a doctor etc, etc. Everyone told you what to do then, you never listened to us, now you’re back with the same shit all over again. On one thread you said it was pubertal gyno, and on another you never answered the question. Now you’re here taking some shit you don’t know shit about, which could potentially make the gyno worse, without asking the vets about it BEFORE you started taking it and want help again.

    This time listen to wtf these guys are telling you and stop acting like a kid. We all told you to lay off the steroids/hormones etc., and told you what to do about the gyno and you still kept saying how your mommy thought it was a bad idea etc, and didn't listen to a damn thing.

                   Jesus.

why dont you chill out bro, i decided not to do anything about it then i got the andro and the nolva, was told not to take the andro here, and then asked what fucking dosages i should take of the nolva so chill out bud, and i fucked up by taking the adro alright, on the bottle it didnt sayWARNING; check with T-Nation vets before use. alright so lay off, im gonna try the nolva and see whats up. thanks for the unhelpful response.

Nolva isn’t going to do anything for your gyno at this point. Again, you are taking something which will screw with your hormones without adequate understanding of what you are doing. The reason people are frustrated with you is exactly because of these kinds of actions.

You were told before, if you wanted to avoid surgery, to try letrozole. You’re options are that, or surgery. And I have to say that I honestly don’t believe that you even have gyno. If your avatar pic is any indication, your “gyno” is nothing to be worried about, certainly not to the degree that you are willing to fuck up your hormones putting all kinds of different drugs into your body.[/quote]

i was told nolva or letro and some other product…
im just worried since i took that andro for 3 days that my gyno is going to get worse, thats y i started the nolva. and im pretty sure that nolva focuses on the estro going to the glands in your chest, and thats really the only part of my hormones it effects… open to corrections :slight_smile:

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nolva hits both the receptors in the breast tissue and the hypothalamus, to be exact.

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I don’t know Cortes, his tits look a little bitchy to me.
I’d say if he messes too much with the prohormones or AAS he’ll need a bra soon.

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I’d think it would be better to “fuck around” and try PH out when you are still young and natural testosterone levels are high, so you don’t have to worry about them getting too low. Just my opinion…

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[quote]BLaughlin wrote:
I’d think it would be better to “fuck around” and try PH out when you are still young and natural testosterone levels are high, so you don’t have to worry about them getting too low. Just my opinion…[/quote]

Maybe you should do a little reading on the negative effects steroids have on teenagers.

To the OP, Ignore everything this guy says.

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ok well to keep ppl updated, i got off the prohormones about 3-4 days ago and started taking about 20mgs of timoxifen citrate,(i think thats the dosage) and my natural gyno has gotten a lot smaller, ive got just marble sized lumps under each nip, gonna keep this dosage for the next 4 days to a week then taper off for about another 4 days to a week, im not really looking to get rid of my gyno, taht would be awsome… but im already pumped about how much has gone away already.

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[quote]BLaughlin wrote:
I’d think it would be better to “fuck around” and try PH out when you are still young and natural testosterone levels are high, so you don’t have to worry about them getting too low. Just my opinion…[/quote]

Possibly the dumbest fucking post i’ve read in quite a long time. Ill-informed, poor advice. Keep your opinion to yourself if this is the garbage that is going to spew forth.

Craig

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[quote]craig_4g63 wrote:
BLaughlin wrote:
I’d think it would be better to “fuck around” and try PH out when you are still young and natural testosterone levels are high, so you don’t have to worry about them getting too low. Just my opinion…

Possibly the dumbest fucking post i’ve read in quite a long time. Ill-informed, poor advice. Keep your opinion to yourself if this is the garbage that is going to spew forth.

Craig
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your like my adoptive father in this blog, haha thanks for having my back

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Dylan,

On a serious note you got great genetics. I wish I looked that good at eighteen. Listen man, if you get on a good consistent training program and stick with a good protein supplement, maybe some creatine and a nitric oxide supplement, eat good, you should see some great gains in your future. BE PATIENT, I been in the game for over 27 years and gains will come without AAS. I was over 40 when I first started AAS. If your suseptable to gyno, AAS and even prohormones are not a good choice right now.
Good Luck.
MAX