So I was talking to a bunch of dudes and we’ve all pretty much come up with the same conclusion.
All the biggest dudes we know train the same. They show up with no plan, no notebook, no program, they lift heavy ass weights, they go home and eat healthy food, and they dont let themselves get too fat or too lean.
We (myself included) spend so much time trying to quantify ‘optimal’ that we stay small.
Just lift heavy shit frequently and recover well, and you’ll probably be huge.
Of course, I’m saying this to the dude that trains Strongman, which is notorious for no program whatsoever and has monsters competing in it. So you know all this 