An impeachment would also mean he loses his generous pension (somewhere in the neighbourhood of $200-250K?), even more generous travel allowance, and lifetime secret security detail. All funded by taxpayers. Abso-fucking-lutely he should be impeached, he doesn’t deserve another dime of taxpayer money.
And the 25th…my understanding is that Pence+ members of cabinet would move to invoke it. They present this to Pelosi. Pelosi goes to Trump and tells him what’s going down. Trump is afforded the right to say “no I’m fine, this is an attempted coup”. Both arguments are presented in the house and senate before a decision. However, in the meantime Trump’s presidential powers are suspended until the conclusion of that debate.
I believe that is correct, and he should in no way be allowed more taxpayer money.
Yes, more or less. I am of the opinion that one way or other more than a censure should happen, bit I do understand the concern that we make him a martyr at some level (or more violent crazies doing something at the inauguration). I still believe it is much more than worth it.
There is also an idea being floated that the House moves to impeach and the articles of impeachment are held until after the first 100 days of Biden’s presidency. The Senate is not convening for the next session until Jan 19th, so impeachment at this point has no real possibility of being enacted until after Biden is sworn in. In addition, once the trial begins the Senate is basically worthless for anything else, so one train of thought is to delay the presentation of the articles to the Senate until Biden has time to begin his legislative agenda and get through cabinet posts.
Come now if Murphy and his generation knew how things would have turned out today they would have stopped collaborating with communist Russia, and left Europe to their own devices. They still needed to nuke Japan though.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t he impeached only be the House? The Senate simply votes to remove. So if the House votes to impeach, he loses the pension, travel allowance, etc regardless of what the Senate does.
I’m actually not sure on the pension and travel, etc. It’s true that once the House votes to impeach the president is considered to have that status indefinitely. In that case he would have already incurred those penalties from the first impeachment attempt. However, I think that a president has to be removed by the Senate to lose pension and the possibility of running for office again.
Ah ok, I thought it was just twice impeached regardless of the Senate voting to remove. I’m almost certain that two impeachments would bar Trump from running for office again regardless of what happens in the Senate though.
There’s a difference between an elite minority of rich and powerful people of Jewish heritage, and the average Jewish person who has no more influence over politics than anybody else. Unfortunately they get blamed alongside the Jews that are in power.
I would say elite Jewish identifying powerbrokers Rothschilds, Rockerfellers, Warburgs, and in these times George Soros, are behind a lot of actual conspiracies. These are factually documented, many times from their own mouths, biographical or other official Jewish records.
Interested in hearing your opinion?
George Soros is such a right wing boogeyman he has been blamed for everything that has ever happened. Doesn’t matter what it is. Something bad happens and the right says “Soros did it.” Pretty sure they blame him when it starts raining.
The coronavirus thread Chris was like “now I don’t know that he did it…but if it was a conspiracy I’m sure Soros was in on it.”
It’s like they’ve forgotten all about the Koch brothers, or just the remaining one I guess. Can’t remember his name. I don’t subscribe to the Soros-funded antifa terrorist crap anyway, but at the very least he does some philanthropic work. The same can’t be said for the Koch’s I don’t think.
Okay, So do you deny he funded BLM? How about donations to left wing DA’s that refuse to charge Antifa and BLM members that have been arrested for various violent crimes?
If you say so, I might have accused someone who said the same thing, not so long ago , before I learnt there was more to the official approved version of history, taught in school, and seen on the TV and movies.I’m a bit disappointed with you Z. You’re someone who seems to pride themselves in being an educated man, but can’t offer a serious refutation, poor form.
Calling someone who you don’t agree with “insane” is not an argument, its an attempt to dismiss and shut down the question, just like calling someone a racist, or dare I say anti semite. Its also a complete over reaction to a legitimate question.
If I was discussing say pedophilia in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, would you assume I was defaming all Catholics,as being pedophiles? If so you would be wrong again.
Just because I draw attention to certain powerful Jewish individuals, and question their actions does not mean I have anything against Jewish people in general, or that they are as a group the reason for all the woes of the world.
Why don’t you tell me how these individuals are not involved in conspiracies, that caused the deaths and hardships of literally hundreds of millions of people (including fellow Jews).
Not really interested in the conversation with you. You’re a far right Australian always talking about how “concerned” you are about the US. And your biggest concerns are usually about minorities being treated decently. I’m not interested in beating up the conversations we’ve had time and time again. I wasn’t responding to you anyways.
I don’t deny George Soros is a liberal or donates to liberal causes. I’m not even saying he’s a good guy, doesn’t have a shady past, hasn’t done shady things, etc. He just isn’t responsible for even 1% of the things the far right links him to which has been pretty much everything.