Anavar First Timer, How Long to Use?

@linabeach Please listen to @anon18050987. He is spot on here. On one hand this is a pharma forum and we all know that things such as Anavar are not replacement hormones, are bad for you, and only serve to increase our aesthetic. Is it worth it to you? I personally wouldn’t recommend doing it again, but if you must you really need to give it considerable ‘time off’ between runs.

I never saw what your T levels were and at what phase in your cycle they were taken. They are highest around ovulation. Regardless, if your deadset on using T, having optimized levels is likely enough with the occasional course of Var to get you where you want. If its not, there is something wrong with training and nutrition.

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I was really curious why he wasn’t more concerned with the numbers and how they jumped up , but clearly he didn’t think it’s a problem. I did question him on some values and was told to take a tbsp of olive oil per day. Seemed a bit oversimplified,

Based on the before and after what values are the most striking to you or, perhaps better put, which ones are the most significant ones to keep an eye on.

Also, can I just go off of the anavar all at once then? Are you saying that low dose testosterone may do the same? Just trying to decipher things which is challenging because the doctor doesn’t seem to be as concerned about these values as I am at this point.

Thanks. To answer your question about testosterone, I was on it at one time and it was not a problem for me as far as I know. Of course that is based on this docs opinion. I wanted to build a little more muscle tone as I was low energy, no muscle and hormone doc said anavar paired with tesamoreliin would work better. I should have really been more on top of that decision but honestly trusted his judgment so I went for it.

I have a GP on call who is quite adverse to most, if not all ‘hormone/anti-aging’ docs and believes that one should leave everything alone unless there is an actual problem so they are quite a bit opposites of each other. He tends to be the extremely conservative type and I have him looking at my labs right now .

Somewhere in between being against anything at all and overlooking blatant numbers is the sensible median. I reach out here to decipher what I clearly dont understand and get someone’s open minded opinion and I am appreciative of this in a huge way.

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No one’s ever called me AI, I had to stop and think about that one! I’m not sure what makes me thoughtful but I’m really a bit freaked out about my values and the info here is something I need to process carefully because I dont want to kill myself over getting a little bit of muscle. That’d be idiotic.

I’m far from being AI–you could ask my husband that !! hahahaha
Actually I’m more ADD than anything but THIS has me really focusing.

Short term you are likely fine. Even if you continued running it you would be fine for awhile, but it would likely take years off your life and/or lead to a cardiac event.

I think optimized T levels with your HRT regimen is enough. Maybe consider running the Var once or twice a year in a shorter duration?

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done. I’m stopping the var immediately . I’ll wait for him to send the Testosterone and end of story .

Thanks again for all input!!!

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thanks again.
It just popped into my AI mind that you remind me of Dr. Gregory House! Sorry, I just couldn’t resist!
:grinning: :rofl:

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Agreed here. I don’t necessarily see the problem in low dose Test C injections for women. 5-8mg/wk is a good range. I would prefer it over creams from my research. @anon18050987 can you elaborate why this is not preferred by you?

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Looked back at my rx for testosterone injections from a year ago. Here’s what I was prescribed and I know this is incomplete information since I do not have the unit value for the injection documented. Anyway, I’m looking forward to readalot’s response to your question!

Testosterone for women in MCT oil 25mg/ml injecting 40 units inject once a week

That’s likely 10mg/wk. Not atrocious but on the higher end. As long as your not creeping out of range or experiencing viralization, it could be correct.

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Mr. Readalot,
Believe it or not my hormone doctor is a real doctor with real credentials who I have seen for years and whom uses both regular traditional pharmacies and compounding pharmacies that are completely legit and I have googled , read reviews on, etc. Therefore, I am certain that the medications they dispense are completely legit.

My GP is a conservative extremely legit doctor whom is NOT for any of these types of medications as he is very traditional. His comment on my bloodwork was as follows (read below) , Keep in mind when reading he is talking about testosterone (he is not versed at all in anavar and doesn’t prescribe testosterone either ) . That leads me to yet another question. Does testosterone do the same thing ? I only ask you guys because you have more experience and I am double checking things that my hormone guy said. Make sense? Ps, please try to use layman’s terms I’m not as advanced as you guys are!!! :slightly_smiling_face:

GP comment:

" This is a classic lipid response to any testosterone. based on the fact that you have a plaque score, and some risk for heart disease. This could be bad for you.

But then again, the testosterone is increasing exercise and improving your mood, which also have a beneficial effect on cardiovascular disease.

So maybe it’s a trade-off?"

I ABSOLUTELY predicted you would say that!!! (misgendering)

Thanks again. Seriously appreciate input and guidance.

My first question to the hormone doc was ‘why did you choose anavar this time instead of testosterone again?’ His answer was that the results would be quicker.Of course I liked the idea of quicker and trusted his guidance.

The comment quoted above was from the GP who, as we all agree now, knows very little about either drug but, rather than debate the possible use of them AT ALL with me, likes for me to make ‘informed decisions’ on my own after hearing his ‘info’ , which he thinks is correct. A lot of his patients also go to various hormone docs. He just thinks it’s stupid to mess with your body at all if it’s not absolutely necessary medically. He knows we disagree on that. . So you can see, he is biased. His comment is really based on conversations we have where I disagree because I think quality of life is very important as well.

The problem I face/d is I need/ed more ‘real’ information to make an informed decision. I reached out on the board as I had a sneaking suspicion I was not informed enough by either of them and it’s not a surprise that I was right on my suspicion.

What I was totally ignorant about that scares me is those lipid values. I’m hoping they go down and will check values again. I dont understand why he wasn’t worried about them but I am not going to rock the boat with him. I should have been on the board sooner or found a way to inform myself, because the reality is, we are responsible for making our own decisions.

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Yes, I have a baseline which was the column to the far right for those particular values on the lipid profile. I have previous blood work as well.

Will redo in 4 weeks thanks

Thank you. I did have the pellets once but opted not to keep doing those. It was kind of painful and inconvenient :face_with_head_bandage:

Today I started on injectable testosterone cypionate in MCT oil 25mg/ml. Dr. said to start at 40 units but I started lower at 30 units today and will be doing so weekly. Syringe is 1ml and there are 100 units iin syringe marking.

Will update

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