Anaconda @ Joe Defranco's Crib

I think even the best supplement can only do so much, no matter how ‘amazing’ they are. If you think about it, that’s why Christian and Tim have been trying to really put the HTH concepts at the forefront. If you’re training is optimal, and your diet and sleep patterns are optimal, then you will be able to obtain maximal results. If something is missing from the equation though, obviously you may not suddenly become hyooge overnight.

On the other hand though, think about who usually makes the best gains off of creatine,… people that don’t typically ingest a lot of red meat. So obviously if you’re missing something from your supplement protocol (or maybe don’t get enough sleep), you stand to make the most ‘magical’ gains if suddenly everything is put in its proper place. Add to that the best method to stimulate the higher threshold motor units during your session, plus (and I find myself explaining this a lot lately), if your hormone levels are maximized before a session that will stimulate growth, you stand to make even better gains (Hence Thibs writing about carbs BEFORE training).

So it’s not just Biotest’s new earth shattering supplement, it’s a combination of factors that will allow you to make the most of your time in (and out of) the gym. I really hope people are realistic about what they can accomplish even with Anaconda, and that we don’t get a bunch of angry teenagers complaining that they didn’t gain over 20 lbs of pure muscle -lol.

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I think even the best supplement can only do so much, no matter how ‘amazing’ they are. If you think about it, that’s why Christian and Tim have been trying to really put the HTH concepts at the forefront. If you’re training is optimal, and your diet and sleep patterns are optimal, then you will be able to obtain maximal results. If something is missing from the equation though, obviously you may not suddenly become hyooge overnight.

On the other hand though, think about who usually makes the best gains off of creatine,… people that don’t typically ingest a lot of red meat. So obviously if you’re missing something from your supplement protocol (or maybe don’t get enough sleep), you stand to make the most ‘magical’ gains if suddenly everything is put in its proper place. Add to that the best method to stimulate the higher threshold motor units during your session, plus (and I find myself explaining this a lot lately), if your hormone levels are maximized before a session that will stimulate growth, you stand to make even better gains (Hence Thibs writing about carbs BEFORE training).

So it’s not just Biotest’s new earth shattering supplement, it’s a combination of factors that will allow you to make the most of your time in (and out of) the gym. I really hope people are realistic about what they can accomplish even with Anaconda, and that we don’t get a bunch of angry teenagers complaining that they didn’t gain over 20 lbs of pure muscle -lol.

S
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I think I’m mostly just excited for the articles, write ups, and information that come along with programs like these. I may not exactly fall into line with using the entire program as I’m not advanced enough, but I do like to adapt the best principles I find into my own workouts.

I think a lot of the attention has shifted since the beginning when this was first announced from a huge workout protocol and system with a minor supplemental undertone to the newest wave of workout nutrition in the forums which is making people forget there are still principles they need to follow.

If you look back at the I, Bodybuilder article that goes with the ancient banner its surprising how the focus doesn’t even seem to be centered around what the forums are discussing. I feel like almost every aspect of the claims have been downplayed at one time or another, but I still think its something that could be revolutionary.

The hype of the original article does bother me since the program wasn’t anywhere near ready. Its like talking shit to someones face and then saying you need 3 months to take boxing lessons so you can kick their ass because you just aren’t “ready yet”.

I understand that things change and that you are making it a great program, but when the products and program have become an inside joke (46 months?!?), its understandable that it draws a crowd that keeps bitching.

rant over

OK. I’m ready to place an order. Please release Anaconda ASAP. Thanks!

“Next week” my ass! :slight_smile:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I think even the best supplement can only do so much, no matter how ‘amazing’ they are. If you think about it, that’s why Christian and Tim have been trying to really put the HTH concepts at the forefront. If you’re training is optimal, and your diet and sleep patterns are optimal, then you will be able to obtain maximal results. If something is missing from the equation though, obviously you may not suddenly become hyooge overnight.

On the other hand though, think about who usually makes the best gains off of creatine,… people that don’t typically ingest a lot of red meat. So obviously if you’re missing something from your supplement protocol (or maybe don’t get enough sleep), you stand to make the most ‘magical’ gains if suddenly everything is put in its proper place. Add to that the best method to stimulate the higher threshold motor units during your session, plus (and I find myself explaining this a lot lately), if your hormone levels are maximized before a session that will stimulate growth, you stand to make even better gains (Hence Thibs writing about carbs BEFORE training).

So it’s not just Biotest’s new earth shattering supplement, it’s a combination of factors that will allow you to make the most of your time in (and out of) the gym. I really hope people are realistic about what they can accomplish even with Anaconda, and that we don’t get a bunch of angry teenagers complaining that they didn’t gain over 20 lbs of pure muscle -lol.

S
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I couldn’t agree more. I for one struggled to make real gains despite training very hard. It wasn’t until I got PW nutrition down that I started to notice a difference. Crappy sleep and a stressful life were robbing me. They get balanced out with good nutrition. It still is not optimal or maximal, but better.

That being said, release the product already. It’s coming out this week right? It doesn’t look like it’s happening today so that only leaves thanksgiving and black friday. I need to place an order but figured I would wait so I could tag this on. Plus, with all the christmas gifts getting delivered my wife won’t notice yet another package from Biotest.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
“Next week” my ass! :)[/quote]

Doesn’t Biotest always release their stuff on Fridays?

[quote]houseofprime wrote:
PonceDeLeon wrote:
“Next week” my ass! :slight_smile:

Doesn’t Biotest always release their stuff on Fridays?[/quote]

No. From what I’ve seen, it’s random.

Is it safe to assume that I Bodybuilder will be released in conjunction with Anaconda?

Just wondering.

MM

[quote]Mr.Martian wrote:
Is it safe to assume that I Bodybuilder will be released in conjunction with Anaconda?

Just wondering.

MM[/quote]

Its never safe to assume anything around here. They like to keep us on our toes, it keeps us fresh!

It’s here!

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
“Next week” my ass! :)[/quote]

Your skepticism was… raped ! lol