[quote]countingbeans wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
No offense, but this is coming from a guy that was invited out to Biotest and allowed to train with CT, and given a supply of supps yet not available. Not a little biased are you 
I think the attitude initiated the invite, not the other way aroundā¦
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Good observation.
[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
No offense, but this is coming from a guy that was invited out to Biotest and allowed to train with CT, and given a supply of supps yet not available. Not a little biased are you
I think the attitude initiated the invite, not the other way aroundā¦
Good observation.[/quote]
yeah, PX has a great attitude all the timeā¦
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
Sure is cool how weāre not āeliteā enough for it.
And by āweā I mean the customers whoāve been loyal for years.
ā¦itās starting to irk me. [/quote]
It has nothing to do with being elite.
Rather, thereās a big difference between producing a very limited number of bottles and going into large scale production. The inventory cost alone on expensive products like these is tremendous, and it doesnāt make sense to make such an investment until all the kinks are worked out from every angle.
I think part of some peopleās frustration is that Biotest typically releases information on some of itās products in development, mainly because the people behind the products get excited about them, whereas the typical supplement company is governed by a marketing department and doesnāt release any info until the product is ready and advertisements appear in magazines.
Obviously, Biotest could have made more money had they pushed Anaconda to the market earlier, but Tim and company would rather not sell a product if they are not completely satisfied that itās the absolute best it can be.
I feel good working for a company that takes its time and doesnāt let profit govern its every action.
[quote]spyoptic wrote:
HBSBound wrote:
Whatās with his eyebrows? I hope thatās not collateral damage from Anaconda. Anaconda: Get buffed and look douchey.
LMAO He is tweezed to oblivion. Looks like a bald mexican lady.[/quote]
Thereās no way thatās tweezed, thatās most likely waxed to get that clean on the browsā¦ I see my wife do it all the timeā¦
As for Anaconda and the I Bodybuilder program, I too would like for this stuff to come out sooner rather than later to give it a whirl, but I kind of look at much like a piece of software (yeah Iām in IT so I canāt help myself).
You want to make sure that something is beta tested and work out all the kinks before releasing into production (LOL the exception of course would be the Windows O/S that seems to be sent to the public to actually beta test).
Honestly, Iām kind of thankful that both the Anaconda and the I Bodybuilder program are being tested as they are in real-world scenarios.
Would I like to be a guinea-pig? You betā¦ But Iād also like to be a guinea-pig on Pioneerās new plasma TV technology as wellā¦
[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
Ghost22 wrote:
Sure is cool how weāre not āeliteā enough for it.
And by āweā I mean the customers whoāve been loyal for years.
ā¦itās starting to irk me.
It has nothing to do with being elite.
Rather, thereās a big difference between producing a very limited number of bottles and going into large scale production. The inventory cost alone on expensive products like these is tremendous, and it doesnāt make sense to make such an investment until all the kinks are worked out from every angle.
I think part of some peopleās frustration is that Biotest typically releases information on some of itās products in development, mainly because the people behind the products get excited about them, whereas the typical supplement company is governed by a marketing department and doesnāt release any info until the product is ready and advertisements appear in magazines.
Obviously, Biotest could have made more money had they pushed Anaconda to the market earlier, but Tim and company would rather not sell a product if they are not completely satisfied that itās the absolute best it can be.
I feel good working for a company that takes its time and doesnāt let profit govern its every action. [/quote]
So thatās what happened to Ribose-C. Just kidding
Heyā thereās nothing wrong with wanting to look your bestā¦
[quote]spyoptic wrote:
HBSBound wrote:
Whatās with his eyebrows? I hope thatās not collateral damage from Anaconda. Anaconda: Get buffed and look douchey.
LMAO He is tweezed to oblivion. Looks like a bald mexican lady.[/quote]
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Mod Brian wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
No offense, but this is coming from a guy that was invited out to Biotest and allowed to train with CT, and given a supply of supps yet not available. Not a little biased are you
I think the attitude initiated the invite, not the other way aroundā¦
Good observation.
yeah, PX has a great attitude all the timeā¦
[/quote]
Professor X has a great attitude toward everything about bodybuilding as far as Iāve seen.
[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
Mod Brian wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
No offense, but this is coming from a guy that was invited out to Biotest and allowed to train with CT, and given a supply of supps yet not available. Not a little biased are you
I think the attitude initiated the invite, not the other way aroundā¦
Good observation.
yeah, PX has a great attitude all the timeā¦
Professor X has a great attitude toward everything about bodybuilding as far as Iāve seen.[/quote]
Sorry, I was just making a quick jab about his attitude towards some of the contributors of this site. ahhh, forget it 
ps- Dr. OZ was talking the other day saying that if your eyebrows donāt cover to the corner of your eye this could be a sign of a certain health problem. Canāt recall what he was referring to though. I want to say the thyroid.
[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
Ghost22 wrote:
Sure is cool how weāre not āeliteā enough for it.
And by āweā I mean the customers whoāve been loyal for years.
ā¦itās starting to irk me.
It has nothing to do with being elite.
Rather, thereās a big difference between producing a very limited number of bottles and going into large scale production. The inventory cost alone on expensive products like these is tremendous, and it doesnāt make sense to make such an investment until all the kinks are worked out from every angle.
I think part of some peopleās frustration is that Biotest typically releases information on some of itās products in development, mainly because the people behind the products get excited about them, whereas the typical supplement company is governed by a marketing department and doesnāt release any info until the product is ready and advertisements appear in magazines.
Obviously, Biotest could have made more money had they pushed Anaconda to the market earlier, but Tim and company would rather not sell a product if they are not completely satisfied that itās the absolute best it can be.
I feel good working for a company that takes its time and doesnāt let profit govern its every action. [/quote]
It can be really frustrating waiting for ANY product that you are excited about. Eric Cartman actually froze himself in ice because he couldnāt stand waiting for the Wii any more.
I am excited about all the new products, but I understand why guys like DeFranco and Tate are getting to try them out before I do. Theirs is a much stronger recommendation than mine. Same goes for X and Stu. They are known around the forum to be serious and dedicated, so their testimonial is worth quite bit. Iām jealous but understanding.
I trust Biotest quite a bit, and I think they have more integrity than any company around. With the recent price drops, you are REALLY getting your moneyās worth as well
I certainly understand the frustration in seeing the I, BODYBUILDER banner every time you pop on here, but let me tell you, I was more surprised than anyone to receive an invite. Iāve mentioned it many times before, I was never one to use the majority of the supplement line, only the basics (Metabolic Drive and Flameout), and Iām certainly not the guy with 50,000 posts on here (replying to every thread just to add an ālolā or a āx2ā). Tell me you wouldnāt have taken the opportunity if offered because you were worried that other people would act a bit resentful -lol.
Let me repeat something that Tim Patterson said to me when he first called me on the telephone. He said that he wanted me to feel completely comfortable telling him what I like, and what I donāt like (and he really stressed the 2nd part). I know the majority of people on here will never get to sit down an chat with the guy, but itās really not all about money with him, which may actually be the problem here,ā¦ if all he cared about what getting people to buy the new amazing supplement, then he would just toss it up on the Biotest store and let people like me, who work hard to scrape out an average living, plunk down about $100 for a bottle.
On the other hand, he could maybe jump the gun a bit because heās genuinely excited, announce what heās got in store, but then still not feel 100 percent ready, as far as production costs, or even providing a proper training program so that people really banking on this supplement can get the most out of it instead of half assing it and bitching about how they wasted their money on another BS supplement.
While I do understand the griping, I guess it just seems pointless after a while. Sure I was following all the hype too (I wasnāt contacted until mid September to come out to Colorado, and the I, BODYBUILDER ads went up before I went away to Florida in July, so I was itching to read about it when I got back!), but I certainly canāt imagine myself bothering to write angry posts about it. Everything these guys have brought to the table that Iāve tried (after reading other peopleās reviews, and googling everything I can find about it), Iāve been damn pleased with. Who am I to complainā¦
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[quote]lott42 wrote:
Mod Brian wrote:
Ghost22 wrote:
Sure is cool how weāre not āeliteā enough for it.
And by āweā I mean the customers whoāve been loyal for years.
ā¦itās starting to irk me.
It has nothing to do with being elite.
Rather, thereās a big difference between producing a very limited number of bottles and going into large scale production. The inventory cost alone on expensive products like these is tremendous, and it doesnāt make sense to make such an investment until all the kinks are worked out from every angle.
I think part of some peopleās frustration is that Biotest typically releases information on some of itās products in development, mainly because the people behind the products get excited about them, whereas the typical supplement company is governed by a marketing department and doesnāt release any info until the product is ready and advertisements appear in magazines.
Obviously, Biotest could have made more money had they pushed Anaconda to the market earlier, but Tim and company would rather not sell a product if they are not completely satisfied that itās the absolute best it can be.
I feel good working for a company that takes its time and doesnāt let profit govern its every action.
So thatās what happened to Ribose-C. Just kidding[/quote]
I believe the issue with Ribose-C is that it wasnāt properly marketed, so many customers didnāt seem to understand what it was or how it was best used. As a result, it didnāt sell well enough to justify continued production.
It was a great product, however, and we still get requests to this day from customers who want it brought back. The ingredients had a unique, synergistic effect and the taste was unexpectedly addictive.
(Edit: Why are posting from multiple accounts in this thread? Please choose one account to post under and let me know which you want to remain active by PM.)
I think both the Anaconda hype and Anaconda whining are both overblown.
Is it gonna be this new mythic supplement thatās going to give you greater gains by itself than training your ass off and eating quality food? No. Is it gonna be a high quality supplement that will be a nice addition to your workout nutrition? Iām sure it will be if you can afford it. Am I gonna stop buying Biotest products because theyāre hyping Anaconda and teasing us with its release date? No, thatās just stupid. Am I gonna go ahead and order 10 bottles of the stuff once it comes out? Not unless it fits within my budget.
Everyone needs to ease up on the Anaconda debate. Yes, it sounds cool and probably has some cool stuff in it. But donāt freak out about it. And stop with the āI quit buying Biotest products because of the hypeā bullshit. They still make quality products at a reasonable price. With the recent price drops, Iāve yet to find a product like Surge Recovery that can beat its price with the same quality. Even when custom mixing on other sites, the prices are pretty much dead even.
Quit complaining and be patient.
Good news.
I just spoke to Tim about this thread and he let me know that Anaconda will be released next week.
You heard it here first!
[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
Good news.
I just spoke to Tim about this thread and he let me know that Anaconda will be released next week.
You heard it here first![/quote]
If youāre pullin our chain, someone will hunt you down and make you MMF with HolyMac. Itās not too late to edit
Holy fuck that is exciting. Thanks Mod Brian.
[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
Good news.
I just spoke to Tim about this thread and he let me know that Anaconda will be released next week.
You heard it here first![/quote]
Whoa! Thatās a big surprise. Thanks Brian (and Tim).
[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
Good news.
I just spoke to Tim about this thread and he let me know that Anaconda will be released next week.
You heard it here first![/quote]
Hot DAMN!!
I havenāt been on in awhile and Iām glad I found this while surfing.
Good news.
Christmas is coming early this year I see.
Is this gonna be $100 a tub still?
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Mod Brian wrote:
Good news.
I just spoke to Tim about this thread and he let me know that Anaconda will be released next week.
You heard it here first!
If youāre pullin our chain, someone will hunt you down and make you MMF with HolyMac. Itās not too late to edit
[/quote]
Been there, done that.