American Taliban

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

I don’t have the energy today.[/quote]

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Do you really think economic theory, in its entirety, fits within the definition you provided? [/quote]

No , I know it does not.

But IMO Beans is a lot like Boston Barrister , he would like to mesmerize everybody with his education .

I see economic issues on both ends of the video. But it does not take any such theory to understand the video.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
he would like to mesmerize everybody with his education .

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I don’t take this as a put down. And I’ve come to know, at this point, that I don’t know shit, and yet rather sadly, I still know a lot more than most…

Education is power. Education shapes morals, ideals, ideas, the basic way of human life.

In today’s world, ignorance is a choice.

If less people sided with ignorance, and more people “mesmerized with education” the country we live in wouldn’t be in the situation it is…

But, no, that can’t be. Some entertainer knows what’s up. Lets just have Michael Moore do all our thinking for us. That should work out well…

We’ve gotten to the point were media sound bites and talking points define our view of people we disagree with.

Taking time to actually understand where people are coming from, and not where John Stewart tells us they are coming from, educating yourself, goes a lot further into being able to solve shit and reach compromise.

Once again Pitt bringing a fork to a gunfight.

Sad really.

[quote] Thomas Jefferson wrote:
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe.[/quote]

American Memory from the Library of Congress)

Last paragraph, although the middle one is kinda relevant today too, lol.

I am in no way anti education . I how ever think this conversation more about Psychology rather than Economics .
As an example I point to the way you changed the subject from the video to your greater understanding of the word economics

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
We’ve gotten to the point were media sound bites and talking points define our view of people we disagree with.

Taking time to actually understand where people are coming from, and not where John Stewart tells us they are coming from, educating yourself, goes a lot further into being able to solve shit and reach compromise.[/quote]

It amuses me that the only people that do this are anti Romney

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am in no way anti education . I how ever think this conversation more about Psychology rather than Economics .
As an example I point to the way you changed the subject from the video to your greater understanding of the word economics[/quote]

Frist off, no, you changed the subject. You took one line out of a long post and said economics had nothing to do with it. I only made my case that yes, economics very much has a lot to do with it. You then went on to try and strike my positions down by claiming education somehow lessens my ideas… To which I pointed out, without an educated citizenry, we wouldn’t have the liberty to have this conversation, nor would your sitcom air…

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote] Thomas Jefferson wrote:
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe.[/quote]

American Memory from the Library of Congress)

Last paragraph, although the middle one is kinda relevant today too, lol.[/quote]

Your quote of Jefferson are you inferring that all the people opposed to Romney are ignorant ?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote] Thomas Jefferson wrote:
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe.[/quote]

American Memory from the Library of Congress)

Last paragraph, although the middle one is kinda relevant today too, lol.[/quote]

Your quote of Jefferson are you inferring that all the people opposed to Romney are ignorant ?

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Events like this don’t help the contrary.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
We’ve gotten to the point were media sound bites and talking points define our view of people we disagree with.

Taking time to actually understand where people are coming from, and not where John Stewart tells us they are coming from, educating yourself, goes a lot further into being able to solve shit and reach compromise.[/quote]

It amuses me that the only people that do this are anti Romney[/quote]

I didn’t say that. I’m just replacing the Liberal scape goat of Fox News, with their hero of the ages.

I listen to people bash Fox all day. I’m just dishing it out from the other perspective. I read a lot of different sources of news, because I know they all spin. I don’t take the one I agree with, and worship it. I’m just pointing out, many of the people throwing stones at Fox, live in a Daily Glass House.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote] Thomas Jefferson wrote:
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe.[/quote]

American Memory from the Library of Congress)

Last paragraph, although the middle one is kinda relevant today too, lol.[/quote]

Your quote of Jefferson are you inferring that all the people opposed to Romney are ignorant ?

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LOL, no. Do you work for MSNBC?

Dude, really? That is really what you thought?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote] Thomas Jefferson wrote:
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe.[/quote]

American Memory from the Library of Congress)

Last paragraph, although the middle one is kinda relevant today too, lol.[/quote]

Your quote of Jefferson are you inferring that all the people opposed to Romney are ignorant ?

[/quote]

LOL, no. Do you work for MSNBC?

Dude, really? That is really what you thought?

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I was inquiring in your interpretation

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
We’ve gotten to the point were media sound bites and talking points define our view of people we disagree with.

Taking time to actually understand where people are coming from, and not where John Stewart tells us they are coming from, educating yourself, goes a lot further into being able to solve shit and reach compromise.[/quote]

It amuses me that the only people that do this are anti Romney[/quote]

I didn’t say that. I’m just replacing the Liberal scape goat of Fox News, with their hero of the ages.

I listen to people bash Fox all day. I’m just dishing it out from the other perspective. I read a lot of different sources of news, because I know they all spin. I don’t take the one I agree with, and worship it. I’m just pointing out, many of the people throwing stones at Fox, live in a Daily Glass House.[/quote]

I think there is a difference between a differing point of view and editing to change the meaning

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I think there is a difference between a differing point of view and editing to change the meaning
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I agree with you, and Stewart and Moore are just as guilty as O’Reily.

That is all I’m pointing out.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I think there is a difference between a differing point of view and editing to change the meaning
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I agree with you, and Stewart and Moore are just as guilty as O’Reily.

That is all I’m pointing out.[/quote]

Don’t forget Limpdick and Beck