Am I Wrong?

When you figure out how to present your viewpoint tactfully, expressing well formed thoughts using facts to substantiate your opinion, you will do much better.

Until then, get ready to fail.

Dude, you are in high school. Potentially getting a shitty grade on one paper isn’t going to make or break you. If you feel strongly on the subject, by all means, have at 'er. Who knows, if you provide some well thought-out arguments and maybe ease up on the hate, you might end up with a good mark anyways.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Sounds like you’re pretty wrong there, bud.

You hating fat people because they’re fat is not far off from people hating you (ok, not you) for being muscular.

By not allowing fat people to use public resources funded partially by their own tax dollars, then you are saying you are ok with a government imposed morality. What if the bus system also didn’t allow large bodybuilders to ride, would you be ok with that too?

What people do to themselves is their own business. Grow the fuck up.[/quote]

Reread his post. He is talking about fat models on the catwalk.

There’s a time and a place for well researched and if necessary controversial papers. Other times it’s just another essay to get written in order to show you have mastered a concept well enough to write a formatted paper about the subject. Trying to be different or adversarial even though your concept could be factual but abrasive to the popular opinion is kind of futile.

Defend your research and thesis type papers if and when they come. It’s just not productive to do so with the inevitable papers semester after semester that just check the blocks in a teacher’s gradebook.

No, you went about this totally wrong and sound like a huge douche. You may feel like no one cares about your opinion, but the fact is you acted like an asshole.

Congratulations. You’re a dick.

[quote]dtheyer wrote:
No, you went about this totally wrong and sound like a huge douche. You may feel like no one cares about your opinion, but the fact is you acted like an asshole.[/quote]

Now imagine if he was grading your paper. You’d lose points for structure, content, grammar, every misplacced footnote, misspelling, font size, margin etc. Instructors can give lots of leeway or nitpick ad libitum and you’ll never know. Not to mention if you find yourself on the cusp of a grade the instructor will tend to knock you down rather than raise you up if they found you to be undesireable.

No disrespect to you dtheyer…just illustrating a point.

When I was a senior in HS I wrote a paper arguing why ugly fat people should be systematically exterminated. That was almost 20 years ago, but I made arguments about how they pollute the gene pool of the population, how by employing flensers (a job where one strips the blubber off of whales) would increase GDP, etc…

I got an A-… with the comment, “well written, but disturbing”.

There was a fat chick that sat in front of me, and when she started to get upset, I told her, “but you’re not UGLY”… LOL

I guess I started early…

For the record, I have since changed my opinion. The assignment was to write about a controversial topic.

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[quote]amphibian wrote:
dtheyer wrote:
No, you went about this totally wrong and sound like a huge douche. You may feel like no one cares about your opinion, but the fact is you acted like an asshole.

Now imagine if he was grading your paper. You’d lose points for structure, content, grammar, every misplacced footnote, misspelling, font size, margin etc. Instructors can give lots of leeway or nitpick ad libitum and you’ll never know. Not to mention if you find yourself on the cusp of a grade the instructor will tend to knock you down rather than raise you up if they found you to be undesireable.

No disrespect to you dtheyer…just illustrating a point.[/quote]

Maybe… but seeing how this is High School, I am willing to bet the teacher doesn’t care enough about this guy to go out of his/her way to downgrade him. Most teachers aren’t like that.

He wasn’t being ‘controversial’, he was being a dick.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
When I was a senior in HS I wrote a paper arguing why ugly fat people should be systematically exterminated.
For the record, I have since changed my opinion. The assignment was to write about a controversial topic.[/quote]

Sounds akin to “A Modest Proposal”

[quote]Mettahl wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Sounds like you’re pretty wrong there, bud.

You hating fat people because they’re fat is not far off from people hating you (ok, not you) for being muscular.

By not allowing fat people to use public resources funded partially by their own tax dollars, then you are saying you are ok with a government imposed morality. What if the bus system also didn’t allow large bodybuilders to ride, would you be ok with that too?

What people do to themselves is their own business. Grow the fuck up.

Reread his post. He is talking about fat models on the catwalk.[/quote]

You’re the one who missed something if you think the entirety of his post was about fat models on the catwalk.

[quote]Mettahl wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Sounds like you’re pretty wrong there, bud.

You hating fat people because they’re fat is not far off from people hating you (ok, not you) for being muscular.

By not allowing fat people to use public resources funded partially by their own tax dollars, then you are saying you are ok with a government imposed morality. What if the bus system also didn’t allow large bodybuilders to ride, would you be ok with that too?

What people do to themselves is their own business. Grow the fuck up.

Reread his post. He is talking about fat models on the catwalk.[/quote]

" I also said that fat people should not be proud of their body and should not be encouraged and should in fact be looked down upon"

And:

" I told the class I hate fat people and that I would not choose another topic as I live in a democracy and I have the right to express my anger at fat people who think being 10 sizes too big or not being able to see your own toes is beautiful."

Is what I believe Stronghold was refering to.

I would have just not used the work “HATE” and found a more less provoking way to get your point across but i dont think you were out of line, now just hope soem fat ass football players dont try to come and kick your ass cause their sister is in ur class and told them what u said…LOL

[quote]Pro-Bulk wrote:
Hey guys,

A couple of days back for English class we had to choose a topic and do a 1000 word discussion on it. I chose to discuss “Why fat models should not be allowed on the cat and why it is not an effective method of fighting anorexia” I also said that fat people should not be proud of their body and should not be encouraged and should in fact be looked down upon.

My teacher and the rest of the class were left shocked most of their jaws dropped to the floor and as my teacher picked her jaw up off the floor she tried to convince not to do such a controversial topic because apparently her daughter is also obese. So I told her to stop feeding her daughter shit and toughen up. I told the class I hate fat people and that I would not choose another topic as I live in a democracy and I have the right to express my anger at fat people who think being 10 sizes too big or not being able to see your own toes is beautiful.

Everyone had a go at me for watching what I eat and obsessing over my body. One girl even said this “how would you feel if I chose to discuss why protein is bad for you?” WTF, I felt like slapping the bitch in the face but didn’t :frowning:

Tell me guys, did I do anything wrong?
(btw many people were left almost in tears after my little outburst and no one in my class is fat, that just goes to show how much we accept ‘fatism’ as our norm these days)[/quote]

Dude your right you could have written your essay on smokers or people who do crack or meth there all in the same boat. Fat people people put a strain on health care honestly why should we tolerate someone with a health problem who knowingly makes themselves sicker. Grow the fuck up some people say to the OP to them Man the fuck up would you tell a crack addict to keep doing crack no you wouldn’t then why would you tell a obese person to keep eating…? I mean I have no problem with people who are like maybe 20-30 pounds overweight but if people your 50+ pounds overweight why are we applauding them? The OP raises a legit problem to me saying that fat people should feel good about themselves and that there beautiful on the inside is like telling a meth addict that meth is ok and that you were just born with a addictive personality so keep doing it. How many guys do you know who are great shape that are looking for a obese women(That aren’t just weird chubby chasers) ? If I was in the OP’s class I would have been insulting fat people right along with him.l Its disgusting to be fat and yes I do look down on you if you are fat.

[quote]Lift or die wrote:
Pro-Bulk wrote:
Hey guys,

A couple of days back for English class we had to choose a topic and do a 1000 word discussion on it. I chose to discuss “Why fat models should not be allowed on the cat and why it is not an effective method of fighting anorexia” I also said that fat people should not be proud of their body and should not be encouraged and should in fact be looked down upon.

My teacher and the rest of the class were left shocked most of their jaws dropped to the floor and as my teacher picked her jaw up off the floor she tried to convince not to do such a controversial topic because apparently her daughter is also obese. So I told her to stop feeding her daughter shit and toughen up. I told the class I hate fat people and that I would not choose another topic as I live in a democracy and I have the right to express my anger at fat people who think being 10 sizes too big or not being able to see your own toes is beautiful.

Everyone had a go at me for watching what I eat and obsessing over my body. One girl even said this “how would you feel if I chose to discuss why protein is bad for you?” WTF, I felt like slapping the bitch in the face but didn’t :frowning:

Tell me guys, did I do anything wrong?
(btw many people were left almost in tears after my little outburst and no one in my class is fat, that just goes to show how much we accept ‘fatism’ as our norm these days)

Dude your right you could have written your essay on smokers or people who do crack or meth there all in the same boat. Fat people people put a strain on health care honestly why should we tolerate someone with a health problem who knowingly makes themselves sicker. Grow the fuck up some people say to the OP to them Man the fuck up would you tell a crack addict to keep doing crack no you wouldn’t then why would you tell a obese person to keep eating…? I mean I have no problem with people who are like maybe 20-30 pounds overweight but if people your 50+ pounds overweight why are we applauding them? The OP raises a legit problem to me saying that fat people should feel good about themselves and that there beautiful on the inside is like telling a meth addict that meth is ok and that you were just born with a addictive personality so keep doing it. How many guys do you know who are great shape that are looking for a obese women(That aren’t just weird chubby chasers) ? If I was in the OP’s class I would have been insulting fat people right along with him.l Its disgusting to be fat and yes I do look down on you if you are fat.
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Maybe I’m going out a limb here, but I’d think it’s safe to say plus size models aren’t unattractive. Then again, I like fat chicks.

i like em big


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[quote]DOHCrazy wrote:
Lift or die wrote:
Pro-Bulk wrote:
Hey guys,

A couple of days back for English class we had to choose a topic and do a 1000 word discussion on it. I chose to discuss “Why fat models should not be allowed on the cat and why it is not an effective method of fighting anorexia” I also said that fat people should not be proud of their body and should not be encouraged and should in fact be looked down upon.

My teacher and the rest of the class were left shocked most of their jaws dropped to the floor and as my teacher picked her jaw up off the floor she tried to convince not to do such a controversial topic because apparently her daughter is also obese. So I told her to stop feeding her daughter shit and toughen up. I told the class I hate fat people and that I would not choose another topic as I live in a democracy and I have the right to express my anger at fat people who think being 10 sizes too big or not being able to see your own toes is beautiful.

Everyone had a go at me for watching what I eat and obsessing over my body. One girl even said this “how would you feel if I chose to discuss why protein is bad for you?” WTF, I felt like slapping the bitch in the face but didn’t :frowning:

Tell me guys, did I do anything wrong?
(btw many people were left almost in tears after my little outburst and no one in my class is fat, that just goes to show how much we accept ‘fatism’ as our norm these days)

Dude your right you could have written your essay on smokers or people who do crack or meth there all in the same boat. Fat people people put a strain on health care honestly why should we tolerate someone with a health problem who knowingly makes themselves sicker. Grow the fuck up some people say to the OP to them Man the fuck up would you tell a crack addict to keep doing crack no you wouldn’t then why would you tell a obese person to keep eating…? I mean I have no problem with people who are like maybe 20-30 pounds overweight but if people your 50+ pounds overweight why are we applauding them? The OP raises a legit problem to me saying that fat people should feel good about themselves and that there beautiful on the inside is like telling a meth addict that meth is ok and that you were just born with a addictive personality so keep doing it. How many guys do you know who are great shape that are looking for a obese women(That aren’t just weird chubby chasers) ? If I was in the OP’s class I would have been insulting fat people right along with him.l Its disgusting to be fat and yes I do look down on you if you are fat.

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I thought it made sense why should someone keep eating when their fat obese and slowing killing themselves and why should someone keep doing drugs when it is killing them?


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