Good points. I don’t know how anyone can complain teachers make too much. It’s clear those folks have never tried to teach anyone else’s kids.
Somehow the narrative of education must change.
Eh…I’m a bit skeptical as to whom is considered the “other side” now. The left, leftist media, etc… uses an increasingly “liberal” brush to categorize who or what represents the right. We can’t even get democrat politicians to denounce violence done on their behalf. I.m.o most politicians are gutless pandering scum
America has some very skewed values. There’s a sickness of the soul of this country. Athletes and “celebrities” are worshipped while those that should be exalted are overlooked and underappreciated. It’s disgusting. A true lack of values and standards.
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Is it different for different schools then? Because all the stuff I looked at said application process and then lottery? How is every kid college bound? The kid who reads at a third grade level is college bound? And you have to attend college to graduate?
Maybe things have changed since you worked there I don’t know. I’m just looking off stuff on wiki and their schools websites.
It is possible they do a lottery and then pick kids or get rid of certain ones? I’m mainly going off Wikipedia.
“The district has been criticized for selecting students based on academic performance. Dr. Ed Fuller, a professor at Pennsylvania State University has said that IDEA schools do not enroll “underserved” students.[12][37][38]Antonio Limon, a San Benito school Superintendent, criticized the district for “cherry picking” its students. Limon claimed that IDEA picked higher performing students when holding lotteries for admission. Torkelson has denied these claims, stating that schools host “transparent, public lotteries.” Limon, however, said that even though lotteries are hosted, the district keeps the “best” students, while taking out the lower performing ones.”
It probably sounds like I’m harsh but I’m just trying to figure out more. It sounds like they are excellent schools for sure. Did you stop working in education?
You can’t get Republicans to do this either. And the President himself has called for violence.
This is true. We have the industrial media complex going on now. Massive behemoths of entertainment feeding pop culture 24/7 to the people.
I"m still convinced that Marvel is a social engineering experiment because I cannot fathom how people continue to watch 2 hour trailers over and over and over.
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You do have to apply to get in the lottery. All the schools have a lottery. That is the only basis for selection. That hasn’t changed. There are schools in the area that don’t believe that. Teacher’s unions hate them because they reward teachers based on performance. I promise you there is no evidence that students are selected based on ability. The state would take their funding away if that was the case. It’s just traditional educators hating. Look at the socio-economic status of the students at the Donna school and tell me they don’t enroll “underserved” students. Hell, define underserved students to start.
Every student who has ever graduated has been accepted by a 4 year college. They have counselors that work with the students once they are in college to help them, since most of them are first generation college students who don’t have much guidance from their families. They don’t make excuses for students like traditional schools do. That don’t say “Jose is too poor to learn” or “We can’t expect to teach these kids.” They just get it done.
I taught junior high Algebra. I never had a student fail the state mandated end of course exam. I also worked a LOT of evenings helping my students who needed it with reading because I knew if they couldn’t understand the word problems they wouldn’t be successful. We had buses that would run as late as 6:30 in the evening to take those kids home. We spent money on those buses and extra hours for teachers rather than football stadiums and bloated admin costs. I don’t teach any longer. I taught there the first 4 years it was open, but I still stay in touch with a lot of people who do work there.
Applying for the lottery means there is a selection process. Also, the school can reject kids who do win the lottery.
How many kids who start 9th grade end up graduating from the school?
People blame teachers. I worked in an inner city school that was a few minutes from a suburban one. Both schools hire teachers from the same pool of candidates. The idea that one school had better teachers, and that accounts for its success, makes no sense when both groups of teachers have similar backgrounds.
The inner city school had a large percentage of non English speakers however, as well as a high number of special Ed students. More single parent homes too. But there were students who worked hard and had parents who cared. If you took them out and put them in their own school they would do a lot better. Surprise.
So and so can’t learn because he’s poor or a minority? Who says that? That’s just more charter school propaganda. The excuse making, when it happens, comes from admin who don’t want to deal with all of the paperwork associated with problem students. There are laws in place that protect the worse kids at the expense of other students and teachers. The support services that some of these schools need is insane. There are more support staff than actual teachers.
A teacher doesn’t say Johnny can’t learn because he’s poor but he can’t learn because he is a sociopath. He doesn’t come to school. He skips class. And that kid still ends up affecting the school’s stats, sucks resources and has a negative impact on other students. Yet, unless he commits a serious crime at school, he can come and go as he pleases.
Then you have the inclusion of sped students with non sped in classrooms because for some reason separating them is immoral and cruel. So a teacher has to divide his time between teaching and making sure a student doesn’t stick his finger in an electrical socket or stab someone with a pencil.
TEA,cough
Agreed
UK schools were better when they academically streamed. Now we have rising per pupil costs, inflated grades, falling standards and the worst prospects for working class children since the days of port soaked patricians.
The people who advocated for this appalling change (New Labour apparatchiks) always find ingenious ways to send their children to the remaining grammars or they go private, it’s a real head scratcher how they all avoid their concocted disaster.
Can’t speak to US schools, mind you, as they aren’t easily comparable.
I clicked on antifa twitter sites for various cities.
The membership numbers and hatred spewed / acted out is truly eye-popping.
Try it for NYC.
Keep in mind KKK is what - 4M down to 4K nationally, since population of US has doubled in the 30s.
Both are detestable, but a little perspective please.
Yeah and this is what’s throwing me off. You can’t take every kid and have a graduation rate where everyone goes to a four year college. When I was a student teacher we had kids who were around kindergarten level in our 8th grade class. These kids would never have made college not close to their peers. Cognitively they had issues that passion or believing in them couldn’t resolve.
So something isn’t making sense with the everyone who graduates goes to a four year college. Either they don’t have these kids to begin with or they are being removed at some point from the school.
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They probably don’t sign Jonny Pencileater up for the lottery to go to the special school.
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I’m not sure what perspective is needed for my statement that right wing violence is significantly higher than left wing. Almost all major experts agree and you can find tons of links to support it.
The KKK isn’t the source of all right wing violence. And we have a President who has directly called for violence multiple times. The dicks of the right wing loonies are over the moon for the President in a way that they haven’t been before with Bush or Reagan. And why not he speaks like them.
Like I said we just did this conversation in another thread when Pat said the left is more violent.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/581284/
Because they can’t graduate if they are not already accepted to a college… any college. Like I said, they are not immune to be tricky with stats. And believe it, if a 9th grader shows no signs of getting into college (let alone desire), he won’t be in that school long. As I mentioned, how many 9th graders make it all the way to graduation? It isn’t 100%.
There is a charter school near me where there is a serious problem with their 100% college acceptance rate because their students have a higher than average drop out of college rate. They do a good job prepping superior (to their neighborhood peers) students for standardized tests but they come up short when it comes to preparing them for success once they are out from under the micromanagament of their teachers.
Definite possibility. Something somewhere along the lines is keeping kids out of those schools that would make what’s accomplished impossible. And again I say this saying they are brilliant schools. But when people say not every kid can go to college it’s because not every kid can go to college.
If all the kids you teach go to college you’re teaching only kids with the ability to get there. You aren’t teaching the type of special education students found in most public schools.
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This was actually a discussion at our job, there is definitely a pattern of leaning more right the older you get. Just some combination of age, morals, financial standing, learning, and demographic. Sample size being all white dudes, ages all over between 25 and 65. The exception being the 20 yr old driver, who is pretty left.
I’m not very politically inclined personally, but I definitely lean more right with age.
Or the sociopaths and criminals.
Oh yeah. An old friend of mine graduated from Mercersburg Academy. They have a wonderfully successful alumni.
Why can’t all schools be like that!?! 
Kids are not weeded out due to performance. You can believe that if it makes you feel better about your failures as an educator, but it isn’t true. The dropout rate isn’t 0, but it’s WAY below state averages.
This is why IDEA has counselors that work with the kids while they are in college. It would just be setting them up to fail otherwise. You can’t expect kids who have never been away from home, kids whose parents don’t speak English and never graduated high school, to know how to handle college on their own.