Am I Hypothyroid - What Next?

Hi all,
I’m 43 years old - pretty sure that I am Hypothyroid.
Very very difficult to lose weight.
Very low body temps - 35 degrees and sometimes below. Max 36.5
Sweat much less when exercising than yester year.
Very sparse outer eyebrows (whole life)
Regular Migraines from age 37
Have just ordered Lugols 5% and Iodral tablets 12.5mg

Labs as follows:

FT4 16.3pmol/L (12-22)
TT4 91.1nmol/L (59-154)
TSH 3.75mlU/L (0.27-4.2)
FT3 5.06pmol/L (3.1-6.8)
RT3 19ng/dL (10-24)
TGAB 10.6IU/ml (0-115)
TPOAB 9.45IU/ml (0-34)

Ferritin 263ug/L (30-400)
Magnesium 0.93nmol/L (0.6-1)
Vit D 166nmol/L (50-200)
Vit B12 102.6pmol/L (25.1-165)
Folate 10.38 (2.91-50)

Obviously Doctor says i’m in range - therefore nothing wrong, regardless of what I say!!

fT3 is the only active hormone, there is no receptor for T4.
T4 is a reservoir for fT4–>fT3 conversion.

fT3 regulates your body temperature by acting on mitochondria inside your cells. Mitochondria cholesterol–>pregnenolone and make ATP, the energy source that allows your cells to function.

Mid-range fT3 should deliver good thyroid function and you are hypo. Our first reaction to that is to suspect elevated rT3 is interfering with fT3 at T3 receptors. While your rT3 is withing range, you need to know that some lab companies have a lab range where you would be over-range.

There are variations in how we function. Perhaps rT3 has a larger impact on you than others.

You need less T4 to have less fT4 for fT4–>rT3 and that is done with ~25mg T3 medication per day, depressing TSH to reduce T4 production. There is fast acting pharma T3, better to get [in USA] time release or sustained release T3 from a compounding pharmacy.

So no simple fix.

Why is rT3 elevated? Read the thyroid basics sticky noting references to rT3, stress, over training, accidents, surgeries, infections, inflammation, chronic, acute, adrenal fatigue and Wilson’s Book.

Low CoQ10 can have some related effects. But we typically only see that in relatively rare cases where cholesterol reducing ‘statin’ drugs reduce CoQ10.

What has been your history of using iodized salt?

You need to have a known source of selenium when taking high dose iodine. This is not a trivial concern/risk.

Taking larger doses of iodine will increase TSH, harmless. But that then makes TSH labs results of no use. Were you taking iodine for those labs?

Your energy levels, libido and mood are low?


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Evaluate your overall thyroid function by checking oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky. Thyroid hormone fT3 is what gets the job done and it regulates mitochondrial activity, the source of ATP which is the universal currency of cellular energy. This is part of the body’s temperature control loop. This can get messed up if you are iodine deficient. In many countries, you need to be using iodized salt. Other countries add iodine to dairy or bread.

KSman is simply a regular member on this site. Nothing more other than highly active.

I can be a bit abrupt in my replies and recommendations. I have a lot of ground to cover as this forum has become much more active in the last two years. I can’t follow threads that go deep over time. You need to respond to all of my points and requests as soon as possible before you fall off of my radar. The worse problems are guys who ignore issues re thyroid, body temperatures, history of iodized salt. Please do not piss people off saying that lab results are normal, we need lab number and ranges.

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Hi Ksman

Many thanks for the reply.
From the symptoms i feel, I came across Wilsons Syndrome and have looked at the website extensively.
I am from the UK and don’t know where to begin in finding any form of T3.
I am almost certain that the doctor will not prescribe me any thyroid meds. I have spoken to him, told him that i feel all the Hypothyroid symptoms - however he is a stickler for the ranges of the lab and will do nothing outside of that.

I have no history of using Iodized Salt. Nothing is iodized here in the UK. A couple of months ago I purchased iodized refined salt on the internet but read that refined salt is not so good, therefore I haven’t used it. A week ago I purchased a large bag of unrefined Celtic sea salt and am using that liberally on a daily basis.
I also take a 200mcg supplement of L-Selenomethionine daily (plus vits C and D)

Energy levels are low, libido is low - surprisingly mood is ok.

I also have elevated SHBG in the high 50’s (range 18-50), increased total T at about 22/23
And low Free-T.
I have no ranges for these as I have deleted the email by mistake.

Again many thanks for your help. Refreshing to speak to someone on a logical basis.
I feel the Doctor and Endo I have been to, do not listen to me, in fact I might as well just send the lab report and ranges as that’s the only thing that concerns them.

There is iodized salt in UK, but only a few shops carry it. Try WWW search.

In UK, you are meant to get iodine via dairy foods. You consume that?

I have purchased Cerebos Iodized salt from the Internet. I understood that being as it was refined salt, the negatives outweighed the positives.
I no longer eat wheat or dairy in a bid to cut out migraines (wheat now for 4 years, dairy for the last 6 months). I have taken a 200 mcg kelp supplement for the last couple of months.

Thanks!

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Shbg at 86. Started trt 50mg test 2 x weekly plus hcg 2 x weekly.

Feel pretty much the same perhaps a little more tired. Seeing doc again on Monday.
Anyone have thoughts on what amount i should be getting?