Hey @charlie12 Yea I read this before.
Keep researching. You will find that they use high doses of vitamin D as a way to lower e2 in women with cancer. So which is it?
Maybe its dose dependent?
It seems like anytime I lower my e2 its with a higher dose supplements. 5k iu vitamin D, high dose curcumin 900mg…
Maybe physio is on to something with liver. You do have NAFLD If I remember correctly
Naw, just high SHBG. My liver values are always golden.
You can investigate this but I would probably just do the 500 iu a day and be happy with d levels in the 30s. Imo
Much of the population is less than 30 I could imagine
Low Vitamin D is associated with dementia, BPH, prostate cancer, and a whole shitload of other stuff.
If anything ill just use more test, and less D.
My bad. I define low with d being less then 30. But I see your goal.
There are people out there who are hyper responders to drugs and chemicals.
@anon10035199 how do alcohol and caffeine affect you?
That would need me. Can’t drink coffee or I will not sleep. And 2 beers I get a buz
These are huge factors to take into consideration when altering anything that you take in.
@physioLojik what does it usually mean when on the day of injection I piss more and with a sense of urgency?
I inject 2x a week. Thx man
Yes! I know this was directed at alphagunner but I just wanted to say that I’m sensitive to just about anything. I can’t even take b-vitamins I’ve realized, they give me anxiety for about an hour after I take them. I can’t drink coffee or tea or even eat dark chocolate. Recently I’ve been having reprocussions after drinking as well.
Is there any kind of multi with reduced b-vitamins I could take to fill in the gaps in nutrition?
Normal effect. Caffeine, in higher doses makes me feel aroused kinda. Good effect I would say.
Nothing to note really.
I will say that I feel as though caffeine affects me way more than it did before TRT.
I figure a small increase from 100 to 110 shouldn’t be enough to cause any real issues.
Just pinned my chest/pec with 60mg, a few hours earlier than I usually do my shot. Next shot will go back to 55 and stay there. (only doing 60 to get back up e2, not messing with it further)
Current plan: 1000iu every 3 days after my e2 comes back up, and retest.
That’s less then the 500iu a day. Is this temporary to make sure your e2 going back up?
I have to start low and work myself up. So I am basically seeing if this will have ANY impact, if none, then I will increase to 1000 iu a day, and so on.
Ill take as much as I can tolerate without it crashing my e2.
Funny you mention this, I can’t drink coffee, makes me jittery, gives me acid reflux (oesophageal relaxation) and makes me poop. However alcohol I’m the most ridiculous heavyweight you’ll ever encounter. I can have 4-5 PINTS and not feel a thing (that’s about 2 litres of beer, and I’m not a particularly large specimen), doesn’t mean it isn’t doing a ton of damage, just means I likely metabolise alcohol at an accelerated rate (thus my liver may be getting exposed to heightened concentrations of acetaldehyde and causing a looooot of damage).
Alcohol is quite a damaging drug when consumed to excess, something interesting I’ve noticed though is that with the exception of say (sometimes) marijuana, whenever alcohol and drugs are in a situation (say music festivals, parties, gatherings etc) and consumed to excess, something ALWAYS seems to go wrong, you always get the individuals who wind up with alcohol poisoning, people getting their drinks spiked, fights, people damaging property, unprotected, regrettable sexual encounters etc. With marijuana (an illegal substance), everyone turns mellow and friendly (supposing no one has a psychotic break haha). Why is booze legal again… Liver damage, kidney damage, heart damage, profound respiratory depression etc. I guess it’s just engrained in our culture + I don’t think making it illegal would have any impact, just like how I think the “war on drugs” is a fat waste of time. Legalizing heroin doesn’t mean people are going to start using heroin because it’s legal because… the general populace hopefully isn’t THAT stupid, it’ll simply provide a safer avenue for addicts to get their fix without worrying about fentanyl laced product and the government could make a killing in tax revenue.
That being said a drink or two just for the taste of it on occasion isn’t so bad, Aus has this binge drinking culture though, not a healthy culture, everyone tends to partake at one time or another. America has it too (esp in college, fraternities etc), however the culture here includes much younger individuals (say as young as 15… sometimes younger)
Sorry to bug you @physioLojik
What do you think my next step should be? Should I follow the plan I have proposed for now and adjust fire after the next vitamin D/Estradiol test?
Plan was, increase to 55mg test per injection, Vitamin D 1000iu three times a week, retest in 2-3 weeks, and again in 4-5
@anon10035199 you certainlt don’t bug. I don’t think you need to retest. Assess how you feel.
Email me with further questions if you need more specificity.
Thank you for the offer! If I start spiraling out of control I will definitely email you. I feel like you have plenty of other people who are in way deeper than me. I’m stable right now and I am so in tune with my body regarding my e2 dropping, that I will follow your advice. I will retest vitamin D again though to make sure my levels come up. Thanks again bro, I will email if I get lost.
Update:
I have been taking 56 MG per shot, twice a week IM
112 a week (this is what I can do with overflow in my vial)
Feel great, no high E2 symptoms. I have had an occasional symptom, very minor, such as slight emotional sensation, or slightly delayed orgasm. Again, might not even be high E2, could just be normal. Either way, it was barely worth mentioning.
Have not had ANY prostate issues. I had thought my increase up from 100 mg had caused some problems, but it was more than likely caused by my large doses that I had taken to try and bring my e2 up. Either way, this problem is resolved completely.
This is the best part: I asked my PCP who Rxs me the test to only test my free testosterone. I explained to her that my Total Test would more than likely be well over the 800 limit. She agreed. I told her if anything was high or out of limits, I would lower my dose. Which means I will lower it before the next test only, (if its something minor like slightly raised blood values)
Feel good on this dose and route. Will definitely NOT go back to Sub Q, although I do miss the ease of it.
I will probably get labs done in a month or two, will post when I get them.