Alpha Male and Estrogen?

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
If tribulus = higher test, and higher test = higher estrogen (as it will via the aromatase pathway), then tribulus = higher estrogen.

If the OP already has gyno then I suggest that a lose dose of arimidex (legal) would be better, since it will both reduce estrogen and therfore increase test via negative feedback.

BBB

True but does a higher natural test level equate to a higher aromatase as would unnaturally high exogenous androgen levels?

But, I see what you are saying if he has gyno.

D

Rate of aromatase is proportional to the amount of testosterone as well as the amount of aromatase enzyme. Assuming the amount of enzyme remains constant (i.e. the user doesn’t gain visceral fat), then if testosterone levels increase, so will estrogen, proportionately.

The increased E will be ‘seen’ at the hypothalamus which will attempt to restore homeostasis by reducing T production. This is why tribulus, etc will only work for about 3-5 weeks; it takes roughly that long for the feedbal loop to take effect.

However, if one was to use a little adex (lets say 0.125mg twice per week) either with or without the tribulus, T would likely be elevated, due to the same (but reversed) principle, i.e low E levels will be seen at the hypothalamus, which will then seek to boost them by producing more T (which will be converted to E).

Tribulus and adex could actually be quite a nice little winning stack, with the ability to use it for much longer, without the effects of the trib diminishing.

BBB[/quote]

I will have to try this, I have both the adex and Alpha Male. I will see what kind of effects this has, I will do a 3 month test of this.

Has anybody seen substantial muscle gain that they can attibute to Alpha Male. I read studies and could not find one that supported Tribulus Terrestris as a T booster. I only found the opposite such as the following from the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research. Maybe someone could provide some references
http://apt.allenpress.com/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1519%2FR-18395.1&ct=1&SESSID=0952babc0794a81a232673893529c4e8
Basically I want to be proved wrong.

Alpha Male is a good product…the best thing i’ve noticed is the strenght gains…and leaning …high libido is also very noticable…very good trib products compared to others that i’ve tried…

I started my first bottle of Alpha Male and Receptor Max about 1 1/2 weeks ago. I haven’t noticed too much yet, but the bottle says it takes about 4 weeks for full effects. I bought these supps. because I have a little extra money. I am on deployment stuck on of the worst Camps in Iraq.

I agree with Da Vinci in that diet and proper training are more important than a majority of supps. I also agree that some supps do have their place. Caffeine based , MRP and protein powders are the supps that do work.