Am I at least on the right track? I get so many difference of opinions, its hard to decide as a newbie with limited connects what is the best way to go… trying to keep it as simple as I can for my first cycle, and as safe and productive as I can. getting a lot of good info, and still got a lot of research to do though. Thanks[/quote]
Dude, just a few posts up you acted like you were ready to learn. Then I TOLD you how often you needed to inject sustanon and a very basic explanation of why. Then you write up this cycle and have totally ignored what I told you, and you agreed with above.
If you want to inject twice a week, wait till you can get some test cyp or enanthate…
Am I at least on the right track? I get so many difference of opinions, its hard to decide as a newbie with limited connects what is the best way to go… trying to keep it as simple as I can for my first cycle, and as safe and productive as I can. getting a lot of good info, and still got a lot of research to do though. Thanks[/quote]
Dude, just a few posts up you acted like you were ready to learn. Then I TOLD you how often you needed to inject sustanon and a very basic explanation of why. Then you write up this cycle and have totally ignored what I told you, and you agreed with above.
If you want to inject twice a week, wait till you can get some test cyp or enanthate…
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Im tracking brother… Im just researching and talking around right now, I have not stuck myself yet, just gettiing all the facts and opinions I can, reading everything I can get a hold of, and alot of people say E#D is fine and a lot people are saying EOD is the way to go, I personally think EOD is prob the way to go, it makes sence to me the balance and levels like you explained…
If you split 500mg into EOD injections do you need to “load” it the first week? or just split 500 even into EOD doses and ride it out 10weeks… I have read about tapering it down at the end, but with EOD doses it would be kinda hard to taper much??
Thanks
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
Don’t taper. EOD is best. Anyone that tells you otherwise is not knowledgeable enough to have an opinion on the matter. [/quote]
Thats a pretty bold statement to make.
Considering the fact that this topic is purely theoretical. ED injections are superior to EOD injections when it comes to blood level fluctuation, theoretically.
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
Don’t taper. EOD is best. Anyone that tells you otherwise is not knowledgeable enough to have an opinion on the matter. [/quote]
Thats a pretty bold statement to make.
Considering the fact that this topic is purely theoretical. ED injections are superior to EOD injections when it comes to blood level fluctuation, theoretically. [/quote]
I was referring to between his two ideas. Earlier I mentioned ED would be better. I said EOD minimum, and he proposed E3d again.
Thanks, but How do you do the math on how much you will have running in your system at any given time??? Like, say I take .55ml EOD… I know that puts me at actually injecting 962mg in 14 days (which is just under 500mg a week “7 days”) … but with the different esters… say I inject .55ml EOD how much will I have streaming thru my body in like 6 weeks or 10??? I hope I am coming off clear with what I am asking, I have read and read until I cant figure out which way is up, if It will be a crazy high amount because of the longest ester still running while I constantly add doses… any insite would be great…
Thanks guys.
[quote]Southern_Gent wrote:
Thanks, but How do you do the math on how much you will have running in your system at any given time??? Like, say I take .55ml EOD… I know that puts me at actually injecting 962mg in 14 days (which is just under 500mg a week “7 days”) … but with the different esters… say I inject .55ml EOD how much will I have streaming thru my body in like 6 weeks or 10??? I hope I am coming off clear with what I am asking, I have read and read until I cant figure out which way is up, if It will be a crazy high amount because of the longest ester still running while I constantly add doses… any insite would be great…
Thanks guys.
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Youre beginning to understand one of the many annoying aspects of testosterone blends lol.
Im not sure why you need to know the exact number on any specific day though. Whats the reason?
Oh and you wont be able to draw .05 of a milliliter. Just use insulin syringes and go for .6ml.
You may also want to look into ester weights. There is more testosterone in 100mg of test prop than there is in 100mg of test enanthate.
[quote]Southern_Gent wrote:
Thanks, but How do you do the math on how much you will have running in your system at any given time??? Like, say I take .55ml EOD… I know that puts me at actually injecting 962mg in 14 days (which is just under 500mg a week “7 days”) … but with the different esters… say I inject .55ml EOD how much will I have streaming thru my body in like 6 weeks or 10??? I hope I am coming off clear with what I am asking, I have read and read until I cant figure out which way is up, if It will be a crazy high amount because of the longest ester still running while I constantly add doses… any insite would be great…
Thanks guys.
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Youre beginning to understand one of the many annoying aspects of testosterone blends lol.
Im not sure why you need to know the exact number on any specific day though. Whats the reason?
Oh and you wont be able to draw .05 of a milliliter. Just use insulin syringes and go for .6ml.
You may also want to look into ester weights. There is more testosterone in 100mg of test prop than there is in 100mg of test enanthate. [/quote]
Well I dont really need to know how much per day, just trying to do what yall told me, I am researching a reading like crazy, and it just seems to get more and more complicated lol… I can see that after a few weeks you have increasing amounts more in your system as the longer esters kick in, so Im just trying to get as close to the recomended 500mg a week as I can, I understand how injecting every other day could help keep levels stable, but if It increases as the longer esters kick in, should you start with a smaller amount EOD like .5ml which would be 875mg in 14 days, or just go with .6ml EOD which would come out to more like 1050mg in 14 days… would it keep climbing as the 10 week cycle goes on?? or is that about right since the short ester dies out after only a few days?
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
Don’t taper. EOD is best. Anyone that tells you otherwise is not knowledgeable enough to have an opinion on the matter. [/quote]
What an obtuse thing to say.
‘anyone that disagrees with me knows nothing’. Wow, fantastic, give it another 5 years and you could make a fine ‘guru’, lol.
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Didn’t mean it as “anyone that disagrees with me” I meant it as “anyone that would say his proposition (E3d) is better than EOD” … Sorry for coming off cocky/like I know more than I do.
I can see how that came off differently than intended.
Its good that you are learning. Youre taking the right approach.
But this isnt as complicated as you seem to think. The thing with test is that there are really very few side effects for adult men other than high estrogen and hairloss and blood pressure. But those side effects dont change much when using 250mg or 750mg (assuming appropriate AI use).
A rough estimate is perfectly fine. 525mg/wk is pefercectly fine. As is 600mg/wk or 450. Dont worry about the release of the esters for this issue.
hey gent some of what these guys say might be useful bro but i just finished 12 wk cycle with sus in it and i took 2cc every week , once a week and had good gains in strength and size. start ai like arimidex when you take first shot (EOD) and you will be fine. for pct nolva or clomid will be fine if that is the only thing you are taking. its not rocket science but yes you need to do ur research FIRST and carefully plan everything so you can get the most out of your gear and also maintain as much of ur gains as you can when coming off. thats why PCT is important to know about.
and yes stickies are very helpful. these dudes just want you to do it yourself like we had too. nobody told me anything and the stickies were the greatest help to me along with other research. i still got plenty of stuff to learn but just figured i would post what i have seen work in my routine.