Show me on the hurt feelings doll where Mr. Trump’s tweet hurt you.
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I think most defamation suits are bullshit to begin with. But I’m pretty hardcore on freedom of speech and don’t necessarily agree with a lot of the case law. Be that as it may…
Interview with Crowder starts around the 45 minute mark.
When you have the press secretary saying it would be a public service to silence Alex Jones, I have to question government impartiality.
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I find it rather concerning that saying mean or even untrue things is now grounds for losing your livelihood and any future chance you have at getting ahead. This verdict was so absurd it may as well have been Dr. Evil from Austin Powers announcing the settlement sum.
I find it especially concerning when I consider the totality of the circumstances. This isn’t happening to a single man named Alex Jones in a vacuum, but within the same government framework that is using the FBI and IRS to target their political opponents. This is the same government that is working in tandem with most major media to curate and censor the news to manipulate public opinion in favor of the Democrats. These are the same clowns who told you the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian Disinformation and banned a sitting President from the majority of the social media landscape in the middle of an election.
This is the same group of clowns who believes it is important that public schools ought to teach young children that they might be, can be, and even should be members of the opposite sex.
This is the same group of clowns who jumped on the defund the police bandwagon, while more and more people fall victim to violence and have to live among societies worst.
This is the same group of clowns who inflated the currency.
This is the same group of clowns who kneecapped our domestic energy industry.
This is the same group of clowns who wanted to put your friends and family out of work and out of society for refusing a sham medical treatment that did not work as advertised.
Cheer all you want for the downfall of Alex Jones, but this trial isn’t about that guy who’s been doing the same schtick since he first popped up on my radar during the 1999 WTO riots.
This verdict isn’t about Alex Jones, this verdict is about everyone not named Alex Jones.
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Was the government even involved?
Wasn’t he sued by private citizens and jury made up of private citizens?
Or is this another conspiracy?
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I confess, I haven’t followed this trial very closely. Was this some kind of private trial, conducted without any government involvement?
Was this a private trial by private citizens conducted without any government involvement?
Do you believe that our government is free of people who conspire with others for mutual gain?
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Yeah pretty sure this was a private trial.
Of course the government can conspire for political gain, but that doesn’t mean that happened here. At least I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest it.
Without evidence you might as well call every decision you disagree with a conspiracy or say the system was rigged.
I hear you bro. It’s entirely possible this trial took place without any government agents involved. This may have been just a bunch of citizens sorting things out together, absent any force of law.
Stay woke.
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Seriously, what role do you think the government played in this trial? A piece of shit lied and called grieving parents who had lost children crisis actors. They were harassed and threatened as a result. There are consequences for doing that kind of thing. It should have been getting beat to death, but a billion dollars will have to do.
I CAN NOT even imagine trying to profit from my child’s death, especially by suing someone for what he said. This trial is an indictment of this society.
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Well aside from the judicial system.
I mean, did he lie in the sense that he knew what he was saying was false? If he had explicitly told people to harass and threaten the plaintiffs in this case, I would agree with you. The call to act is the difference and there are consequences for that.
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Well, we don’t have to imagine what profiting off a child’s death really looks like, we have Alex Jones to show us that.
Jones learned freedom doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. We are a nation of laws and if Jones weren’t a soulless cretin, he wouldn’t have broken these particular ones. He only has himself to blame.
Huh?
Obviously he did because he made it up. When he said the dead kids were crisis actors, he had zero proof to back that up, how do we know? Because they weren’t.
Besides, I think people might be missing an important detail: Jones never really made a case and these were default judgments. He left himself open to a huge settlement.
Would you go on whatever platform he uses to call grieving parents crisis actors? Only a piece of human garbage would do that. If he wasn’t trash, he wouldn’t be in this position. You just can’t say whatever you want about people. And the people who think freedom of speech should be more expansive than it is, and allow us to say whatever we want about whomever or whatever we want, don’t understand capitalism. You can’t unjustly interfere with an individual or business’s ability to earn money.
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I understand and even share your distaste for what Jones said and did, but I don’t believe he should be held liable for what anyone else said or did.
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If a former employer of yours said you were a thief and someone else who was going to hire you didn’t, because of what that other person said, your former employer shouldn’t be taken to task?
People make shit up all the time. There were WMDs in Iraq, COVID vaccines stop transmission of the virus, all kinds of shit.
This is what I’m seeing
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Didn’t Jones retract his sandy hook statements years ago as well? I’m not sure when this trial began but I feel like he apologized and corrected himself like 5 or more years ago.
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Yes.
And there are laws to protect us from those lies when they affect us negatively.