Hello,
I’m new here. I have a new cycle idea, that would be my 5th cycle. I’m 21 years old, 6 ft and 230 with appr 12-3% bf.
1-17.week 750mg test e
1-3.week 300 test prop
1-10.week 500mg deca
6-7.week 200 tren ace
6-17.week 400mg tren ena
1mg arimidex eod
2.5mg bromocriptine ed when on tren for prolactin
500iu hcg ew
Pct tamoxifen
What do you think? Thanks for your help.
I’m thinking about making a cycle log if you guys want to?
You’re 21 and on your fifth cycle? Dude. You should have lied and said you were 28 if you wanted any serious answers. Or at least told us how you’re an IFBB pro or some other such thing.
As it is your cycle plan is incoherent and needlessly complicated.
I don’t want to lie 
Btw, I’m not an IFBB pro, but I want to become pro. I’m gonna compete in bodybuilding in october 2019, but I have to be around 260-270lbs. I have been competing in powerlifting for 2-3 years.
Any serious help would be appreciated.
Ok, I’ll give you my advice and hopefully it can be of use to you.
The deca in this cycle plan is not being utilized properly. Running it for 10 weeks is simply not enough to make any kind of gains that are commensurate with the risks. I look at each compound and its risk profile and then measure that against the potential gains it can bring. Short cycles of deca have very little in the gains department but still come with all the risks that deca carries. So in order for it to make sense you’d have to run it 6-10 weeks longer than stated. That’s a tough one to recover from though.
I get what you’re attempting to do with the test esters and it’s not necessarily wrong. But that’s a lot of test those first three weeks. Running over a gram a week is really, really heavy. I know guys are doing that now and it’s fashionable, but people are also eating Tide Pods, so maybe the wisdom of the modern era isn’t totally trustworthy.
How does this sound:
-drop the deca
-add dbol at a lower dose (20-30mg/d) weeks 1-6 instead of starting with the test prop
-add Mast at 400mg/w from weeks 11-17
Dropping the deca means no issues with deca dick (which of you look around here you’ll see can be a nightmare beyond belief for some guys). Adding the dbol means an immediate increase in strength, added glycogen storage, and a huge mental boost at the beginning of what will be a long and hard cycle. Adding the mast at the end means a nice hardening and lots of guys who run tren swear by mast as an addition to their tren cycles.
You want to add, at minimum, 30lbs over the next 16 months. That’s a tall order for someone who’s already run four cycles. You’re probably going to wind up needing TRT anyway before you’re 23. But if this is going to be your life and your dream then I imagine you’ll have to be ok with that.
The alternative to your cycle—assuming you know that you’re never really going to get back to a normally functioning endocrine system—is to run a longer, slower growth cycle, then cruise, then run it again, then cruise, then run a contest prep cycle. That would look like this:
20 weeks total
-600mg Primo
-600-800mg EQ
-200-500mg test
-300mg NPP
-400mg tren ace
Weeks 1-10
-500mg test
-600mg EQ
-600mg primo
-300mg NPP
Weeks 11-20
-200mg test
-800mg EQ
-600mg primo
Weeks 14-20
-400mg tren ace
Food for thought.
Firstly thank you bro, I really appreciate the help.
I will try to answer and give you some more pieces of information.
The purpose that I want to use deca for 10 weeks is because I’d like to minimize the time with two 19-nors, and 10 weeks are the minimum to run deca for. Btw I’m not sticking to deca, but have no better idea to put on mass except insulin, but I think until I’m not a pro, slin is unnecessary.
I dont’t like danabol, because it shoots down my appetite like crazy, and I can barely eat the half amounts of what I eat while being off. Furthermore, it raises my BP too much.
I’ve already heard about masteron, but as a steroid that you would use right in the 6-8 weeks before competition.
This 20 weeks cycle is very good, but I think it’s much stronger that my cycle plan, isn’t it? Btw, my 1st cycle was 10 weeks of 250mg sustanone, 2nd 12 weeks 500mg ena, 3rd 12 weeks 500mg ena with 500 deca, 4th 14 weeks 750 ena, 500 eq, 200 tren (for 7 weeks). I didn’t like eq, I think it didn’t give me more besides appetite and some good pumps.
Then I think I will use the 300 prop just in the first week and leave the rest for another cycle. 200npp instead of the 500 deca for the first 10 weeks would make a huge difference?
My goal is to get around 250 lbs in this cycle, then 10-12 weeks rest, another cycle for 10-12 weeks to be around 265-270, another 10 week rest and a comp prep cycle.