I live in Thailand and the doctors I’ve seen don’t really know jack about trt. They want me to take a high does every other week. I know just enough to know that’s utter bs. For a 33yo male who’s got decent years of training. What would you experienced guys recommend for just straight test e? My bl…

Well, while it isn’t legal per se, I do believe you can purchase test otc there, get you’re own bloods… however physician monitored trt is always the smartest route to go if you can find a decently versed MD on the subject

Can you post your lab results? Did you get a full hormonal work up … TT, FT, E2, FSH, LH, SHBG. If that’s ng/dl then is probably total T not FT but who knows what units they are using since its Thailand. Are you looking to cycle or perform TRT? There is TRT and then there is cruising which a lot…

[image] blshaw: If their scale is 300-900 then anything above 900 is not normal Disagree, scales vary dramatically. I can show literature that shows the upper limit of normality within a male populace to be about 1250… Many ref ranges nowadays cut off at 600, to say 650 is abnormal would be a…

[image] unreal24278: Many ref ranges nowadays cut off at 600 Show me a lab that says 600 is the upper range of ng/dl for the average male populace. I won’t believe it until I see it. You may disagree but the fact is we are talking about TRT. You have to establish a medically accepted bas…

The old accepted range for T (normal populace) was 350-1150 or something like that. the notion that 1000ng/dl is off the norm is ludicrous, 300-1000 was the previously accepted medical norm. Justing type in “what is normal testosterone” the first abbreviated answer that comes up is (270-1070ng/dl) I…

[image] unreal24278: The old accepted range for T (normal populace) was 350-1150 or something like that. the notion that 1000ng/dl is off the norm is ludicrous, 300-1000 was the previously accepted medical norm. Justing type in “what is normal testosterone” the first abbreviated answer that come…

[image] blshaw: I think my advice is pretty solid to be in the upper 2/3 on your trough day This would likely put you above the limit on your peak. Probably not bad advice. We have seen these numbers shift over time both on the high end and low end. The high end was close to 1200 just a fe…

For whatever its worth to explain this again. [image] TRT Facts - Beyond Bro-Science Testosterone Replacement Its all about the availability of a T reference standard (calibrant) that CDC released in their effeorts to harmonize T measurements https://www.cdc.gov/labstand…

[image] jcmcnorton: My blood work had my free test at 377. 300-900 was normal in their scale. We are going to need more labs, this isn’t enough. You can shoot in the dark as far as protocol desicions go, but if you really want to start out on the right foot, you’ll get these tests. Total T F…

[image] mnben87: Would your advice change if you saw the top of the range at say 600 ng/dL? I would say what’s even the point of TRT if I am at 2/3 of 600 ng/dL (400 ng/DL). No not blindly. As @johann77 posted there as been debate already on these ranges that I am privy too. I feel 900 ng/…

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For whatever its worth to explain this again.

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