Overhead press. I should admit that I am not a fan of working out with free weights anymore and I have 20+ MedX and Nautilus machines in my home gym. Therefore, I took the Extreme HIT program and changed the free weight exercises to MedX / Nautilus machines. I left only overhead press with barbell (Challenge 7) as the second exercise after MedX Lateral Raise and Reverse Curl with Barbell - all others were replaced with machines. Overhead press with either barbell or dumbbells has always been a very awkward and uncomfortable movement to me.
I use machines only when doing long negativesā¦imo to risky for injuries with free weightsā¦like I said IMHO
hope you recovered
as for the supplements, did not try
I do it about once a month or two. What an ass kicker! Rest is key after that!
I knowā¦ supplements were a money pit and intestines destroyer for many years. I wonder if my digestive issues now are at least partially due to those years of supplementation.
Jealous! Only have 9 myself, but no room for any more!
I read about this routine a while back. Do you do it as Dr Darden recommends with one warmup set? Another question is how you look upon the first heavy positive rep? I would be very cautious here. Machine only?
Same story all the time; want more, but lack of space is the limiting factor.
I have had probably 20+ other Nautilus machines (pre-I, I, II, NextGen, 2st generations), but sold most of them keeping just the ones which itās difficult to replicate or just difficult to extract from the basement.
Yes, machine only as I have Nautilus machines. Did a light set on a few of them, not all. Just to warm up shoulders and knees. You really do need several days to recover. Will be doing it in next week or 2
You are in Md, arenāt you? If so, very nice duo hip and back you are selling! One of my bucket list machines!!
Yes, I am in MD. Pads are in perfect condition (almost new) and I have replaced bushings and chains with bearings and cables making it much smoother. I havenāt decided yet if I want to part with it or not because I am trying to convince one of my sons (who is into running) to train on it in order to improve his results. Unfortunately, in the family of six I am the only one who has a passion for strength training/bodybuilding
Very nice! A little out of my range factoring in the 600 for Goalder to pick it up. I canāt get my 18 yr old to try nautilus. Heād rather do the bro splits at planet fitness, like we all did. If only he knew what I do!
Are u on fb? Thereās a nautilus page, not very active but some good stuff. Heavy duty is pretty good too. I find the lack of nautilus/Darden/hit resources frustrating myself
the price listed on EB is negotiable, especially in case of direct sale when I donāt need to pay hefty EB fees. Yes, Goalder chargesā are like in gold, but he is worth it. I have had recently a case of an unexperienced (unknown to me) shipper picking up a smaller machine from me to another person. It was a nightmare.
I echo you in terms of training experience and knowledge: being a father of four (and for most of their lives being more a friend than a father), itās sad to see that modern generation does not appreciate first-hand knowledge and experience gained in some 30+ years. They assume that Google can answer all their questions (although they rarely ask the right questions) and they are sucked deep into a world thatās only 3-5 inches large. To each his own. Luckily I have my Walther to help me if I get too tired of this life and the whole direction this Earth is moving to.
Thanks for the insight, but I prefer not to support fb for moral and/or political reasons (which is the same). I donāt have any social media accounts, except, I guess, a LinkedIn profile, if itās still there. I think this is the only forum which I frequent for apparent reasons. This one is probably the closest one to be called the League of distinguished gentlemen.
I stay away from long slow reps just because I find them very tedious, and I feel that the attention required to maintain a steady slow pace just ends up a distraction. That said, if I was to try them, I think I would only do it if I had access to machines. Trying to maintain a slow and constant speed of movement, and also trying to maintain a consistent, fixed movement path, while trying to take the exercise close to failure??? Just too many moving parts if you are trying to do that with free weights that have no movement constraints.
I trained alongside a friend the other day. When I did my 30-30-30 routine he asked me if I was doing isometrics/statics? Appearantly, this was how slow reps were considered by my friend, who is more into conventional reps.
This made me think. There is obviously a difference in between statics and slow reps, but is it that great? I would assume slow reps better reach the entire muscle/musclegroup, but the TUT should be equivalent, right? Can anyone fill me in here? @Ellington_Darden @average_al @borisv
I highly recommend Brian Johnstonās second book in JReps trilogy called āJReps: Exploded viewā which addresses all those questions in details.
From experience of training myself and others: isometrics was a waste of time (I trained several years according to Pete Siscoās static contraction training); I am a S type person (gains only in the range of movement which has been worked) - AJ had an extensive research on that matter. Super slow reps (10sec positive and 10 sec negative and more) never produced any hypertrophy effect, but I have had terrible exercise induced headaches. The body was capable to shift tension away from muscles (where I want it to be) to other muscles which is not good. BTW: Josh Trentine no longer trains in super slow manner.
I see a value of more reps per set - same idea shared by many experts, including Dr. McGuff who was a staunch supporter of super slow style.
I do use static holds within the set (not necessarily to make set easier) as one of the variations and in order to psych up / reposition myself for another mini-set in a cluster, for instance.
I never focus on TUL or TUT: I never do singles or 1-3 reps in a set; my standard HIT sets are within 90-120 sec probably. I donāt think that if I do a hard set of leg presses and go for more than 25-30 reps (I start feeling my leg muscles working only after 20 reps in a set), so when I am close to failure, and the very second the clock hits a 2 min (or 3min, or whatever the number), my body stops working anaerobically and goes into aerobic mode and all the effect of hard 30 reps is lost. I donāt buy it at all.
That is quite surprising. He was a devoted disciple of Hutchinsā methods for many years. Iām curious how you learned this, as Trentine largely ended his social media presence several years ago.
Last year I bought several MedX machines and a super-slow leg press from Albert Coleman who is a personal trainer at Inform Fitness in VA. You can watch video of Albert instructing Josh in a super slow training session filmed by Michael Petrella. I discussed many issues with Albert while moving the machines and specifically asked him how does Josh train nowadays. Albert confirmed to me that Josh no longer trains in a super slow style. I knew it because of Joshās comments in preface to Brian Johnstonās Zone Training III book - check it or I can post it later. By the way, Albert also does not train super slow and looks more massive and defined in comparison to the video with Michael Petrella.