Adding Tren to a Test/EQ Cycle

First ever post so bear with me guys.

I have done previous cycles of test and var and test and EQ.

Currently doing a test and EQ cycle for 16 weeks.
Week 1-16 Test E 600mg pw
Week 1-16 EQ 600mg pw
Week 3-16 HCG 250iu e3d

Cycle support
Arimidex e3d
Tudca daily
NAC daily
Saw palmetto daily.

I am considering adding Tren to the cycle. Clearly a stronger compound to what I’ve used before.

Should I consider 200mg p/w for the last 5 or last 8 weeks of the cycle?

I’m 38
Diet is clean at 3000 calories
Bf is currently 12.2%
Weight 80kg
Height 172cm

I wouldnt have anyone run less than 350 ace or 500 enanthate.

What is your goal?

As if percent body fat is that precise…
That said, you should look pretty good.

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Goal is to get around 9-10% bf: I use scales to measure the bf…so agree there could be a degree of difference to the the reading.

You might consider running a little test for variation when you have access to your scale frequently. Weigh yourself (for % body fat) every couple hours throughout the day. Record the percents and see how much variation you get. Also, test for repeatability by weighing 3 times every time you weigh. See if those 3 readings are close.

Your % body fat will not change much is a 16 hours period, but your hydration will.

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Thanks I’ll do that!

What would you recommend in terms of adding Tren to the above cycle. I’ve read as well as helping tighten muscles it’s quite effective during a cut.

good starting point

whats having you want to put it at the end?

I presume you’re considering A not E so you can stop if there is a problem and have symptoms stop sooner.

I might not have an aggressive enough opinion for your liking. But here goes:

I believe you are taking plenty of AAS to add muscle to your body (total lean muscle).
I see you want to run the cycle 16 weeks. How many weeks are you “off cycle”?
I believe that you should be “on cycle” more than you are “off cycle”, but I used closer to 500mg/wk AAS and ran shorter cycles. I felt that I was getting diminishing results after 8 weeks, so if the cycle wasn’t for a “targeted” contest, I would run my cycle 8 weeks. Then be off 4 to 6 weeks, and then back on AAS.

I always used orals, but only up to 20 to 30mg/wk, the full 8 week cycle. I know very few people on this forum consider this as safe, but it is what I did.

You might try running your next cycle with Tren instead of EQ. I never liked EQ for muscle growth, but I didn’t take anywhere near the dosage that you are taking.

Yes I’m planning of using Ace in case my body does not tolerate it.

I was thinking along the same lines of when I did my last cut using Var, added it at the end of the cycle and at a small dose.

I am open to advice as to whether taking it from the start would be better.

I am normally off cycle the same length as on cycle. So my last cycle was 14 weeks and I was off just over 14 weeks.

I’ve tended to keep most of the gains with EQ.