Do your lipids come back to baseline after “cycle”? Is it a compound that aromatizes a lot? Do you use an AI? I dropped my TRT from 155mg/week to 125mg/week because my E2 was really high (and so were TT and FT) and I was definitely getting symptoms, so I think if I add anything to my TRT it should probably be non-aromatizing compounds.
Yes your lipids return to normal after you quit providing you eat a semi clean diet… CoQ10, fish oil, and D3 will get you to good numbers faster. Anavar will not raise your E2. It might raise your blood pressure. IMO you need a blood pressure cuff and check yourself daily when exceeding TRT levels. A very old school but nothing better is 2mg Doxazosin. An alpha blocker is a great blood pressure drug and if you have BPH its secondary effect is it reduces the size of your prostate. How many drugs out there has a plus secondary effect? Usually the secondary effect is your toes fall off. haha
Google them you will be amazed.
Anavar is the King of orals. I like it so much I am on for 6 weeks and off for two months then right back on. I get more muscle growth from 10mg x 2 per day of Anavar over 500mg of T cyp or E by themselves. Anavar will showup on a 125mg/w TRT blood test. So keep that in mind if you have a TRT clinic blood test coming up.
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Hey man, thanks for all the advice, I appreciate it. This kind of TRT+ every 2 months or so is exactly along the lines of what I’m looking forward to.
Are those test results from 125mg/w Test C + 20mg/d Anavar? It’s close to what I was getting recently on my last protocol of 22mg/d (154mg/w) Test C: TT 1700ng/dL, FT 37ng/dL, E2 (sensitive) 70pg/mL.
However the high E2 didn’t work for me at all and I had bad symptoms (fatigue, depression, back acne), so I dropped to 18mg/d Test C (126mg/w) and I feel way better.
The fact that Anavar doesn’t aromatize is great for me. I think 125mg/w Test C is close to my sweet spot for TRT, so if I want to add something on top it needs to be something that doesn’t aromatize.
It’s amazing you’re getting such great results with only 10mg 2x/d. At that dose, taking 2 months off between every “cycle”, do you think there are any permanent negative side effects? It seems like a really low dose.
I just saw on my clinic’s website they have Oxandrolone. Does that mean they have actual pharma Anavar they prescribe? That sounds crazy, but if I could get that from them…holy shit.
Be prepared to pay $5-8 per pill. I used pharma my first time and it was $800. 0/10 would not recommend spending that kind of cash for the supposed upgrade.
Worth it for peace of mind, no longer illegal if you have a script!
Yes.
I pay $77 for 60 tablets. These don’t look UGL.
Please don’t ask where that is not allowed here. Just know Google is your friend.
Those are indeed pharmaceutical grade. That particular company is a GMP-regulated pharma company. It’s worth the extra price IMO, especially for injectables.
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It’s likely from a compounder, which is fine in my mind. Still legal and effective. Actual Oxandrin using a goodrx coupon is like $600
My sentient human sized pet rodent would theoretically have to pay nearly 300$ for 50 tablets (50mg, arguably pharm grade but from compounding pharmacy and imported).
I have no interest in Anavar though, I have a feeling the cosmetic effect elicited would have me hooked and as a result I’d keep taking it intermittently despite the effect it has on lipids. As a result I’d die of a massive heart attack fifteen years from now
Yeah that’s not an amount of money I’d be excited to spend, although the peace of mind knowing it’s legit would go a long way for me. I’ll reach out and ask them about it.
Do you think there’s a difference in quality between actual pharma and compounded pharma for Anavar (or in general)?
Does that hold for low doses (10-20mg/day)? What do you think is the long term impact of doing say, 1 “cycle” of 20mg/day Anavar for 6-8 weeks once a year on top of 125mg/week TRT?
I recently did a stress test + echo and everything came back fine, no family history of heart disease. But I am 41yo.
So basically at 20mg/day that’s ~$120 for a 6 week mini-cycle. That’s really not bad.
20mg/d is too low, unless you’re a female. If you’re going to do it then do it the way that’s most effective. That’s just my 2¢.
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That is how much I do with great results.
I’m not going to argue with others recommending more.
I would recommend 10mg morning and 10mg evening and give it a month. If you feel nothing then up the dose. It never hurts to start low and see what that does esp the first time.
EDIT: I would like to add to make sure your lipids are in good shape before starting anavar.
Here is my before a 6 week cycle of anavar lipids. My first time I kept my T at TRT levels 125mg/wk. So all the lipid damage is AAS oral only:
And the after 6 weeks:
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That’s actually not that bad, some react far worse.
You should look at @studhammer’s lipids on var (granted his are worse at baseline and he used 50mg/d)
He takes way more than me. He is a lot younger than me. I am just not going to do Pro level anything. Why take 50mg/day anavar if 20 gives me a great pump that last 3 days? I am happy.
I am 67 and have to go slow with lots of blood tests and blood pressure monitoring.
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I think so, yes. I’d prefer to always get actual Pharma brand for the mainstays, but Oxandrin is $600 using goodrx or $95 from a compounder (and they’ll go up to 50mg per tab). I don’t have any complaints about it so far
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Is oxandrin still manufactured?
We have one vote for ‘yes’ and I’ll cast mine as ‘no’. The API is the same and most pharmacies are buying from the same factories that supply the UGL pipeline. If they’re both dosed accurately then the difference is impossible to tell. The variation usually comes from a combination of things, including UGL pill making and how they mix the API with the inert ingredients. Pharmacies are 1,000x better at that than a UGL that’s not using a V-shaped blender.
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