After reading some statistics on guys with high-normal T, I realized it may not be so abnormal that I have insane cravings for alcohol and cigarettes. But it’s becoming very difficult to manage.
Can anyone relate?
I’ve seen this too, with myself and a few of my friends. Party hard, drinking drugs girls and steroids all seem to go together. The 2-3 years I spent low T I had zero desire to do anything, including drinking, partying, girls, etc. Now I can feel some of those becoming more appealing again. As far as I know that’s all regulated by dopamine, which testosterone has an effect on. Curious if anyone has any data on this.
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It makes sense. I wish there were an easy supplement solution to it but I don’t think there really is.
As far as supplements, I would guess (GUESS) that anything to balance neurotransmitters might help with the cravings or urges. 5-HTP to increase serotonin would lower DA in the process. Just spitballing here.
My buddies on big cycles were always thrill seekers & party animals, I figured one had to influence the other.
People use the term addictive personality to rationalize bad behaviors as if they have no control. In the context of cigarettes and booze you are simply talking about drug addiction.
And yes I can relate to the alcohol thing so I quit and I will never go back.
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I have an addictive personality and I smoked and socially drank, also played video games. While low t, once i started working out and raising my t naturally I began to go to parties etc but that was more of a confidence thing (maybe)
Do sugar cravings count? Haha
Are you on TRT josh? Forgive me but I don’t recall seeing a log in regard to your TRT journey?
Self perscribing 200mg a week, appointments with endos and uros soon, if they dont work I’ll go through defy.
I’m a naturally high t person but ive been on ssris for 9 years and its destroyed my life as well as saving it, so yeah ill make a log or update as soon as i dial things in better
We are always here to help. Lots of experience on this board. Put up your labs and let us give you a hand.
I noticed TRT instinctively wires me for healthy habits, I no longer crave sugar when on TRT and now that I’m off temporarily the craving are back.
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Ive noticed the same thing systemlord. Sugar holds very little interest to my satiation desires these days.
I am with system on this one! I was a bottle of wine 5 nights a week fiend for years! I would workout insane… do cardio, have my wine and go to bed. Once I started trt I returned back to the way I was in my early 20’s. Strict diet and having a few drinks on the weekend. Seeing results in the gym and how my body has been responding has me craving anything that will make me faster, leaner and stronger!
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I hope I get the not craving sugar part at some point. Right now it’s out of control. Two frosties for lunch and I still wanted more but didn’t do it. Maybe I’m deficient in something else.
did you try eating a shitload of turkey rice and broccoli instead? 
I’ll keep that in mind lol. I’m on the way to Vegas so no turkey rice this weekend
On that, you gotta bite the bullet and cut it. The less you have of it the less you crave. You don’t have to get rid of it entirely. There is zero point in torturing or overwhelming yourself unless your body has given you a damn good reason to do so.
Here’s what happens: You cut sugar down. You go through 7 days of hell wanting it real bad and then suddenly it just has less and less interest to you. It’s a pretty precipitous drop, too, once that first week or so of cravings is gone.
For me, sugar was contributing to my autoimmune disease - or at least the unpleasant symptoms. I discovered this on my own. So I went from an estimated 100g a day down to about 40g. Later I lowered it even more to about 20g. Some days I have far less than that but I try to keep my max to 20. My point is that was 10 years ago. And if you average out a drop of 70g a day over the course of 10 years that is over half a ton of refined sugar my body did not have to process. That’s insane.
I always had a terrible sweet tooth. So I know it’s a struggle. You don’t have to do it all at once or avoid every single sugary thing forever. Just try monitoring how many grams a day you are having and try cutting it to something more reasonable. If that doesn’t work and you have to go cold turkey, then do that. The cravings will only dog you for 10 days or so. And they start to get better after 3 or 4. If as I suspect, you are tired a lot (I can’t remember from your log), you will be shocked how much more energetic you feel after two weeks of reduced sugar. If you aren’t tired a lot, the TRT may be masking the deficits sugar is creating in your body.
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