Add Carbs or Protein?

Nutrition
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Why?

And as a follow up question: did you ever consult those bodybuilding coaches in your area I pointed you toward? If optimal is the goal, that seems like the best method

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I did not.

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I guess to be the best I can be.

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Wouldnā€™t a sub optimal method still do that: just slower?

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You were told how to set it up at the beginning of this thread. I would do something very similar but, use BW instead of LBM as it makes it easier.

Protein: 1-2 grams per LB.
Fat: .35-.6 grams per LB.
The rest carbs

Exact ratios do not matter and will be based on preference.

You are losing at 3200 calories so, add 300-500 calories.

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Nope I think this is where youā€™re falling down, gradually isnā€™t working. As @T3hPwnisher said you can slowly add cals then nullify them via NEAT, the body is designed for homeostasis.

Personally Iā€™d start more around here:

Changing tac slightly:

Not to add insult, but hopefully the irony isnā€™t lost, in chasing perfection and optimisation you failed to reach the goal. Things in life are rarely perfect or even optimal, there is often a trade off, and a compromise. This is where this comes in:

Itā€™s the question you really need to decide before the next step. Iā€™d also consider whether youā€™re having any fun/enjoying the process? Keep an eye out for your mental health, being concerned over food, health and looking good is a positive, that tipping into unhealthy obsession is a fine line.

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Whatā€™s tac?

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Sorry missed a letter, change tack - it means change direction, I was changing the direction of the conversation.

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Summary

The belief that the anabolic response to feeding during postexercise recovery is transient and has an upper limit and that excess amino acids are being oxidized lacks scientific proof. Using a comprehensive quadruple isotope tracer feeding-infusion approach, we show that the ingestion of 100 g protein results in a greater and more prolonged (>12 h) anabolic response when compared to the ingestion of 25 g protein. We demonstrate a dose-response increase in dietary-protein-derived plasma amino acid availability and subsequent incorporation into muscle protein. Ingestion of a large bolus of protein further increases whole-body protein net balance, mixed-muscle, myofibrillar, muscle connective, and plasma protein synthesis rates. Protein ingestion has a negligible impact on whole-body protein breakdown rates or amino acid oxidation rates. These findings demonstrate that the magnitude and duration of the anabolic response to protein ingestion is not restricted and has previously been underestimated in vivo in humans.

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New info. Big feedings of protein are as least as good, if not better than multiple small feedings. I guess old studies on protein consumption didnā€™t track what happened hours and hours later.

If you take a big dose of protein, muscle synthesis lasts for longer than if you do a small dose. Science dudes have been saying this for a few years at least.

And now a few science guys are saying that protein synthesis is actually Greater with the big dose than the small dose, but it takes a little longer to reach that high level of synthesis.

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I like 2 large meals a day or around 90 to 100 grams of protein each. Steak and eggs >

Alsoā€¦ itā€™s possible to synthesize excited Bromine in an Argon matrix!

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When I approached diet for optimizing my physique there were two critical objectives:

  1. Sufficient protein to build muscle mass
  2. Insulin management to minimize fat storage

The only time an insulin spike is desirable is when I was depleted of glycogen. All other times are ideal for fat storage.

For me it was critical to cover both objectives.

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