[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am not going to argue the party issue here, but I am really pissed that someone did not call the police the moment “14 year old hookers” came out in a conversation. That shit should bug everyone on this board, regardless of whether you are a Liberal or Conservative. I hate all Chesters period. [/quote]
hah Chesters.
I assume theyre going to argue there was some sort of confidentiality agreement.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
They really misplayed this though in my opinion. They should have gathered up a dozen or 2 instances or more over several months all over the country, I’m sure they could have gotten help, and released one good one first. When the ACORN suits responded with the usual outrage release more and so on. This would have been much more effective and kept it in the news for quite a while. Now ACORN is going to be ready if they try it again and they can play these off as a couple isolated incidents though 2 is better than one.
x2. They’ll just keep pumping them out until there’s nothing more ACORN can say. I just saw that they lost their census contract.
The funny thing was how they said they were entrapped. Everyone says that when they get caught committing a crime.
More needs to be published on their role in the Minority Mortgage Meltdown also. They had a hand in intimidating banks into lowering their lending standards by way of the revised CRA.
This was one of the crown moments for the democratic party in the 90’s. This is when this all really started. But even that is already not focusing on the real issues. The Ruling banking elite that engineered this collapse and others. Focusing on anything other then them is then winning with their deceptions. [/quote]
Actually, the CRA started back in the 70s.
The banksters didn’t “engineer” the collapse. They knew they were selling junk MBSs, but they all thought they could divest themselves before the whole thing collapsed. In the same way, all of the people getting these mortgages thought they could sell their houses for more money before their ARMs reset. They never should have gotten the mortgages in the first place, but because the collusion between the banksters, Fannie, Freddie, the government, and the Sand State mortgage brokers as well as the greed of the people trying to get loans they couldn’t afford, they did get those loans. When drywallers from Chiapas were “buying” $800k homes, everyone knew the whole thing was going to collapse - they just thought they could get out in time.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
They really misplayed this though in my opinion. They should have gathered up a dozen or 2 instances or more over several months all over the country, I’m sure they could have gotten help, and released one good one first.
When the ACORN suits responded with the usual outrage release more and so on. This would have been much more effective and kept it in the news for quite a while. Now ACORN is going to be ready if they try it again and they can play these off as a couple isolated incidents though 2 is better than one.[/quote]
just heard an interview with this okeith guy, and he definetely gave the impression that there are more to come.
Probably off-topic, but why is prostitution illegal and pornography legal?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Probably off-topic, but why is prostitution illegal and pornography legal? [/quote]
the courts ruled that pornography falls under the 1st amendement (freedom of speech). I believe there were two court cases, once against Larry Flynt and the other against Hugh Heffner, and they won both under the 1st amendement.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
You always bring the best “facts” PR. Fact.
Speaking of “facts,” do you have any outrage to direct towards the venerable “community” organizers in the video, or is that just a big joke to you like everything else?
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The unanswered question now gives you the answer.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Probably off-topic, but why is prostitution illegal and pornography legal? [/quote]
See itâ??s morally different if both people are being paid to have sex and you get it on camera.
Iâ??ve always wondered this. Isnâ??t getting paid for sex getting paid for sex?
[quote]koffea wrote:
lixy wrote:
Probably off-topic, but why is prostitution illegal and pornography legal?
the courts ruled that pornography falls under the 1st amendement (freedom of speech). I believe there were two court cases, once against Larry Flynt and the other against Hugh Heffner, and they won both under the 1st amendement.
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Why does not every hooker simply have a camera rolling that she deletes afterwards?
That way they could always say they make amateur porn?
[quote]orion wrote:
koffea wrote:
lixy wrote:
Probably off-topic, but why is prostitution illegal and pornography legal?
the courts ruled that pornography falls under the 1st amendement (freedom of speech). I believe there were two court cases, once against Larry Flynt and the other against Hugh Heffner, and they won both under the 1st amendement.
Why does not every hooker simply have a camera rolling that she deletes afterwards?
That way they could always say they make amateur porn?
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Because the John’s didn’t sign a release.
[quote]orion wrote:
Why does not every hooker simply have a camera rolling that she deletes afterwards?
That way they could always say they make amateur porn?
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i bet that would be really bad for business. They would definitely lose all of their congressional clients for sure.
[quote]John S. wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/14/senate-votes-cut-acorn-housing-funding/[/quote]
The news within the news is that not one other major network news outlet (CBS, ABC, NBC, or CNN) has ONE word about the senate vote, the Census denial, OR the accusational videos, OR that ACORN is suing. Not front page, not even in “Politics”…
However, the “Kanye West / Taylor Swift Incident” is on front page of CNN and ABC.
A Democrat majority vote of 87-3 to deny funds indicates that they don’t want the scandal because ACORN is associated with the President or Dems as they try to pass the clusterfuck that will be socialized healthcare. They’re throwing ACORN under the bus.
Edit: As I refreshed NBC after post, the ‘Senate Vote’ one-liner just popped up.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
John S. wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/14/senate-votes-cut-acorn-housing-funding/
The news within the news is that not one other major network news outlet (CBS, ABC, NBC, or CNN) has ONE word about the senate vote, the Census denial, OR the accusational videos, OR that ACORN is suing. Not front page, not even in “Politics”…
However, the “Kanye West / Taylor Swift Incident” is on front page of CNN and ABC.
A Democrat majority vote of 87-3 to deny funds indicates that they don’t want the scandal because ACORN is associated with the President or Dems as they try to pass the clusterfuck that will be socialized healthcare. They’re throwing ACORN under the bus.
Edit: As I refreshed NBC after post, the ‘Senate Vote’ one-liner just popped up.[/quote]
The sooner this anti American sub culture abomination is crushed the better though it won’t go away this easy
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
You always bring the best “facts” PR. Fact.
Speaking of “facts,” do you have any outrage to direct towards the venerable “community” organizers in the video, or is that just a big joke to you like everything else?
The unanswered question now gives you the answer.[/quote]
Yes. But he’ll show up on another thread and try something similar with the same results.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
John S. wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/14/senate-votes-cut-acorn-housing-funding/
The news within the news is that not one other major network news outlet (CBS, ABC, NBC, or CNN) has ONE word about the senate vote, the Census denial, OR the accusational videos, OR that ACORN is suing. Not front page, not even in “Politics”…
However, the “Kanye West / Taylor Swift Incident” is on front page of CNN and ABC.
A Democrat majority vote of 87-3 to deny funds indicates that they don’t want the scandal because ACORN is associated with the President or Dems as they try to pass the clusterfuck that will be socialized healthcare. They’re throwing ACORN under the bus.
Edit: As I refreshed NBC after post, the ‘Senate Vote’ one-liner just popped up.[/quote]
whats truly stunning too me is that every article that I have read coming from any source besides fox completely leaves out the details. They make it sound like the atrocious act was that acorn simply tried to help a pimp and prostitute. They dont even go into details about what they helped them do. The audience reading the article could basically assume that the acorn employees helped them to a glass of water, and are now losing their HUD funding because of it. Their is no defense for helping someone setup an underage brothel, yet strangely this bit is left completely out.
[quote]koffea wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
John S. wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/14/senate-votes-cut-acorn-housing-funding/
The news within the news is that not one other major network news outlet (CBS, ABC, NBC, or CNN) has ONE word about the senate vote, the Census denial, OR the accusational videos, OR that ACORN is suing. Not front page, not even in “Politics”…
However, the “Kanye West / Taylor Swift Incident” is on front page of CNN and ABC.
A Democrat majority vote of 87-3 to deny funds indicates that they don’t want the scandal because ACORN is associated with the President or Dems as they try to pass the clusterfuck that will be socialized healthcare. They’re throwing ACORN under the bus.
Edit: As I refreshed NBC after post, the ‘Senate Vote’ one-liner just popped up.
whats truly stunning too me is that every article that I have read coming from any source besides fox completely leaves out the details. They make it sound like the atrocious act was that acorn simply tried to help a pimp and prostitute. They dont even go into details about what they helped them do. The audience reading the article could basically assume that the acorn employees helped them to a glass of water, and are now losing their HUD funding because of it. Their is no defense for helping someone setup an underage brothel, yet strangely this bit is left completely out.
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I think the attempt at hiding the details only hurts their efforts. Once people find out that ACORN is helping to exploit under age girls, hopefully that will blow the lid off it and show people who they really are. People should be barging down the doors of ACORN.
Only a tiny blip of an article about it in the Wall Street Journal today…
the defense now is that these tapes have been edited and redubbed. A fair claim in this day and age . . .
but man are they banking on the idea that they wont release the raw footage to all the news agencies. If they do release it, what defense will they have then?
finally someone besides fox carries the ACORN scandal - well sort of
The Audacity of Ho’s by John Stewart
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/09/16/the-audacity-of-hos-daily-show-skewers-acorn/
i have to give him credit for this. Stewart realizes there is no way to cover this up or spin it, and calls the media out on it.
[quote]koffea wrote:
finally someone besides fox carries the ACORN scandal - well sort of
The Audacity of Ho’s by John Stewart
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/09/16/the-audacity-of-hos-daily-show-skewers-acorn/
i have to give him credit for this. Stewart realizes there is no way to cover this up or spin it, and calls the media out on it. [/quote]
when stewart made the comment “I’m a fake journalist, and I am pissed I got scooped on this, shame on you real new agencies”… priceless…