[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]worzel wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
ass-to-mouth or it didn’t happen.[/quote]
Is that your new catch phrase or have you got coprolalia?[/quote]
I had to look up what coprolalia is. And yes, there is a definite possibility that I have it.
Fuck! Shit! Cock![/quote]
LOL!
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
In Canada the east coasters talk in an accent all their own. The rest of Canada sounds the same imo. Newfies are hard to understand, funny as hell though.
[/quote]
Are newfies ‘Newfoudlanders’? If they are here’s a bit of info for ya: Newfoudlanders are of Irish decent mainly from ‘Waterford’ in the South East of Ireland and they still retain that accent. They emigrated en masse during the 1700’s n 1800’s hence the weird accent.
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
In Canada the east coasters talk in an accent all their own. The rest of Canada sounds the same imo. Newfies are hard to understand, funny as hell though.
I’ve always wondered why news announcers in the US sound like me, very Canadian…no offence.
I know someone who lives in Pittsburgh and they don’t pronounce their W’s. Downtown sounds like dawntawn lol. [/quote]
Usually I find the Canadian accents are way pronounced in the smaller towns. Between Montreal, Vancouver and Toronto, the average anglo sounds pretty much the same. Some of the funniest accents I’ve ever heard were in small town Northern Ontario. The real Maritimers with the Celtic accents are the best to talk to and some of the friendliest people I’ve ever run into as well.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
There’s massive differences in the accents here, even among a small state like NJ- probably close to the size of Ireland.
Some people tell me I talk like I’m from Jersey City- which is distinct and seperate from talking like you’re from Bayonne, or Staten Island.
In South Jersey, some folks actually have southern accents, which still amazes me. And the further you get towards Pennsylvania, the less New Jersey you hear at all- i.e. they say “Coffe” instead of “cough-ee” as we say where I am or “Waater” instead of “wuder” which is how we’d pronounce it.[/quote]
Yeh’ thats what I’m talking about.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Generally I think the media speaks with an East Coast accent. Nothing I hear on TV ever sounds like it has an accent to me, and I’m pretty perceptive about that.[/quote]
Maybe thats the point but over here media TV has what we call a D4 accent i.e. an affluent part of Dublin, which does not represent the rest of the country. I’d love to see that change
I live in WV and we have a few major variations in accents.
Northerners sound like they’re from pittsburgh, eastern-panhandlers sound like MD (over enunciate the “O” sound in words like Home)
The southerners are split into a few groups: straight up hillbilly slackjaw (myself included) and more of a stereotypical southern drawl (“Hey Ya’ll!”)
The people in the central part of the state are just a bit twangy, but you can still understand them.
The people nearest the VA border sound more like regular folk, accent-less.
The southerners are the worst though. You can literally drive across a county-line and hear a dramatic difference in accent.
Pretty similar in Wales. Accents differ across even a couple of miles - Swansea accents, Llanelli accents, Rhondda accents, Cardiff accents, North Walian etc., all in a space a tiny fraction of the size of some US states.
The thing is, to most English people, we all sound the same, but there is a huge difference to us.
[quote]wigsa wrote:
I have a neutral accent,basically because I went to a boarding school for my teenage years and so my original Cork city accent,although it was never very strong,got lost in the mix of all the other ones.So now I suppose I have no accent at all,just Irish.[/quote]
I think it’s a shame because an accent distinguishes you from other parts of the county/country and enhances your identity. I know plenty of people with that accent you speak of and you wouldnt have a clue where they are from until they told you.
I blame the evils of MTV…
I think as long as you don’t have a strong regional accent you’re good-to-go for news anchoring, etc.
I can tell, say, an east Texas or south Texas accent, but a New York or New Jersey accent sounds exactly the same to me. And anything said in a New York/Jersey accent is funny.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
There’s massive differences in the accents here, even among a small state like NJ- probably close to the size of Ireland.
Some people tell me I talk like I’m from Jersey City- which is distinct and seperate from talking like you’re from Bayonne, or Staten Island.
In South Jersey, some folks actually have southern accents, which still amazes me. And the further you get towards Pennsylvania, the less New Jersey you hear at all- i.e. they say “Coffe” instead of “cough-ee” as we say where I am or “Waater” instead of “wuder” which is how we’d pronounce it.
[/quote]
You beat me to this.
I’m from deep south jersey and the accent is a mix of Philly/West VA/Baltimore, so you’re right, it’s real twangy. I call it mush-mouth. “Wooder”, “Warsh”, “How comes…?”, “This n 'nat”, “Kepitch” (Ketchup).
In Maine, there are 3 or so accents-- souther/western Maine, Downeast, and “The County” (which doesn’t sound like a New England accent at all).
We have two very distinct accents typically in Michigan. The Yooper Accent and the “normal” one. By the way…
Typically, we pronounce our verbs fairly agressively. We say our "a"s quite hard. Less ah’s and more Ay’s. We’re also fairly nasal, especially compared to a lot of southern states.
The Yooper Accent, on the other hand, is a totally different story, haha.
And here’s one more fun find that I found, it’s so true…
[quote]Think about it: we rarely, if ever, make the “tuh” sound of a T… as we finish a word that ends in a “t”, we don’t actually say the “t”… instead we just stop all breath with our lungs. For example, “apartment” becomes “aparh’ meh’” (Say it really fast, and DON’T SAY THOSE Ts!). There… now you’ve goddih’!
Many Michigan folks have written, insisting they don’t do this. But “I don’ talk tha’ way!” sounds a lot different than “I don’Tuh talk thaTuh way.” Yes, Virginia, you are chopping off your Ts. (If you want to hear people who pronounce their ending Ts, listen to the Irish. An’ doan’T ye forgeT iT, boyo!)[/quote]
Taken from michigan accent: idiosyncrasies and patterns (which actually has a pretty good and humorous outlook on how we talk.)
I was born in Canada but lived in southern England (Margate, Kent) from ages 4 to 9.
I had an accent and upon returning to Canada it took about a year for it to slowly fade away. I really didn’t like it and the kids made fun of me for it.
Now I wish I still had it. Chicks dig accents.
[quote]worzel wrote:
Ireland is a small country but we have so many different accents. For example; if I drive 20 minutes down the road people speak with a completely different accent and this variance in accents continues from village to village and town to town and even across one city (we have small cities btw).
What is the US experience with this?
Just for a size comparison New York City has nearly double the population of the Republic of Ireland yet I can hardly understand some fella 20 miles down the road.
Come to think of it is there an accepted universal American accent?
What I mean is, is there an accent that is portrayed by your BIG media networks as being the accepted way to speak as an American?
We have it in the form of a our national broadcaster, which never represents regional accents across Ireland even the comprehensible ones. England has it in the form of the BBC - for instance you will never hear a Geordie or a Liverpudlian reading the BBC news!
Who decides this?
[/quote]
I believe the acceptable “accent” of America broadcasting comes from Ohio, because they suck so much that they figured that their “accent” also sucked enough that no one would really be offended if they heard it.
Because we are talking about accent snobbery, Mexicans butcher the Spanish language.
[quote]worzel wrote:
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
They find a neutral accent for national programs, one that can be easily understood by everyone. I suppose the accepted American accent would be the accent you find in most American films.[/quote]
I figured as much but the main thing I am getting at is who decides?
Is a neutral accent the one that you are accustomed to hearing most often? There are a lot of acceents that are easily understood but are not mainstream, why not use one of those?
On a side note:
The same can be said for all the evil fuckers in movies, their accents are always either a English or German, what gives?
Remember the film ‘Alexander’, they all had Irish accents! Weird wasnt it!
We are so accustomed to hearing classical greeks, romans whatever, speak with a specific English accent that anything to the contrary just doesnt fit.[/quote]
Basically which ever dialect allows for the enunciation of their words, every syllable. Which gets annoying hearing some motherfucker enunciate shit that hasn’t been enunciated since the 1800’s.
However, this is how most people speak, dialects of course change this a bit: Basicallay which eva dialec allows fo da nunciation of they words, everah syllable. Which gets annoyin hearin some motherfucka nunciate shit tat hasn been nunciated since da eighten undreds.
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Also, I was told that if I left Texas I would need to kill my accent and it was pretty true until recently. That said, on several of my teaching evaluations from students I was told to knock off the cowboy schict (sp?). So, some people still have issues.[/quote]
Lol, I got my SI evaluations back…Sounds like a hick. haha I pee my pants at you.
Generally my accent is typical American but many people can tell I’m from Chicago by the way I say certain words with vowels, it is very ‘nasally’. i.e.
person - “where you from”
me - “Chicago”
person - “Chicaaaaaaago”
me - “yeah…”
For reference:
http://wimp.com/irishscottish/
I love accents. American Southern might be my favourite. I don’t think I have an accent but on the phone some Americans have mistaken me for British.
I moved from Minnesota to Florida for school. I was fully expecting to get allot of shit for my “Fargo” accent. Apparently it doesn’t exist. The only time people comment is when I call a soda “pop”. Actually I’m quite disappointed overall with the lack of twang in the girls. It must have something to do with the tourism. I actually had one guy ask if I was an Aussie.
I have noticed that my “S” are turning to “D” for example instead of saying “I wasn"t” I now say “I wud’nt” Milk is also not pronounced as “melk”
[quote]worzel wrote:
Maybe thats the point but over here media TV has what we call a D4 accent i.e. an affluent part of Dublin, which does not represent the rest of the country. I’d love to see that change
[/quote]
Well you gotta realize that them speaking with an east coast accent doesn’t represent anyone but us.
There’s a whole section of the country (The South) many times larger than Ireland that never hears their awful backwards bullshit spoken on TV and probably, when they have electricity for the weekend, wonders why nobody talks like them.
The midwest is the same thing- rare is the time you will hear their weird ass way of pronouncing “house” spoken in public. It sounds like they’re adding an extra o, u, u, h, and 4 onto that pronunciation.
Regardless, it is what it is. They’re your countrymen, whether you wish you’d let them go during the civil war or not…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]worzel wrote:
Maybe thats the point but over here media TV has what we call a D4 accent i.e. an affluent part of Dublin, which does not represent the rest of the country. I’d love to see that change
[/quote]
Well you gotta realize that them speaking with an east coast accent doesn’t represent anyone but us.
There’s a whole section of the country (The South) many times larger than Ireland that never hears their awful backwards bullshit spoken on TV and probably, when they have electricity for the weekend, wonders why nobody talks like them.
The midwest is the same thing- rare is the time you will hear their weird ass way of pronouncing “house” spoken in public. It sounds like they’re adding an extra o, u, u, h, and 4 onto that pronunciation.
Regardless, it is what it is. They’re your countrymen, whether you wish you’d let them go during the civil war or not…[/quote]
You mean the proper way to say house?
That D4 accent does my head in.
Anytime i speak to someone from newcastle west dont have a clue as to what their saying, i just nod my head and say “yep your probably right”
Wexford town is crazy “hun” this and “hun” that.