[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
In other words, for those who can’t see past metaphor, you care about aborted ‘children’, but you don’t care about them when they live and they suffer under your imposition, you don’t care when they end up in prison because they were born into poverty and saw no way out, and there was no way out because cunts like you made sure of it.
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Nice. Very nice.
I’m not sure I’m qualified to have position on abortion, for the simple reason that I don’t happen to have a uterus. If I did, I might feel more strongly about the issue.
I’m certainly glad my own mother didn’t elect to terminate her pregnancy while pregnant with me, but I can think of a whole lot of folks alive today who probably should never have been allowed to go to term.
I’ve also been to Indonesia and China, where a few less babies being born every year would probably be a good thing overall.
One thing that has always stumped me is the practicality of most Republicans’ vociferous opposition to abortion.
If abortion became illegal, wouldn’t the net result just be an increase in Democrats?
[quote]snipeout wrote:
You are on the battlefield, 10 minutes until a bomb in an unknown area goes off and kills hundreds of innocent people. The only way to extract the where abouts is torture the terrorist in custody. What do you believe is right? [/quote]
You’d have to be better than Klaus Barbie to get any valuable information out of anyone in less than ten minutes.
[quote]musicma1n1 wrote:
Can someone explain to me the logic in illegalizing abortions? [/quote]
Because it’s the targeted killing of a completely innocent human life.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
musicma1n1 wrote:
Can someone explain to me the logic in illegalizing abortions?
Because it’s the targeted killing of a completely innocent human life.[/quote]
Of course, if one subscribes to the doctrine of Original Sin, then one must also believe that there is no such thing as a completely innocent human life.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sloth wrote:
musicma1n1 wrote:
Can someone explain to me the logic in illegalizing abortions?
Because it’s the targeted killing of a completely innocent human life.
Of course, if one subscribes to the doctrine of Original Sin, then one must also believe that there is no such thing as a completely innocent human life. [/quote]
I’m keeping my stance non-religious.
[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
I am not for late term abortions. At some point you must draw a line.
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I once had a girlfriend who opined that abortions should be a retroactive option up to the 21st year after birth.
I’d say that’s pretty far over the line.
[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Firstly, … FightinIrish,…rainjack only scares women who give a shit about the ‘friends’ they have gathered on this site. I am none of the above. I’ve stated my position on abortion and the pill.
I’m the ‘hurricane molotov’ that got their man panties so far in a twist. I’m the supposed combat boot wearing southpaw that stirred up Meeeester Push so bad he couldn’t shut the fuck up about me for a week.
Here it comes again, some dick who thinks because I’m not against abortion I support mercy on the criminals that fill our prisons. So incredibly off the mark, it’s just barely funny. The reaching convenience, the shortsightedness of stupid men.
I could turn around and say now, that the very same ‘life’ advocates who shout their shallow hearts out about abortion, don’t give a godamn about the poor and suffering results, of a deafeningly sad cycle of poverty and crime.
They only care when they are INSIDE of an underprivelaged mother, and once they scream their wanting to this world, they do us the deed of killing them with suffocation of GREED.
They care not for the finished product of humanity, only for a mass of cells that holds no promise, and it holds no promise because there is none to be had… and there is none to be had, because of the very people that fight for the lives of the doomed.
They rely on the lives of the doomed…to put them further higher, on their fake thrones of stinking shit. There is no real love,…NONE.
In other words, for those who can’t see past metaphor, you care about aborted ‘children’, but you don’t care about them when they live and they suffer under your imposition, you don’t care when they end up in prison because they were born into poverty and saw no way out, and there was no way out because cunts like you made sure of it.
I am not for late term abortions. At some point you must draw a line.
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Who are you to decide whose life holds no promise? This is still America right? The country where anyone can become anything regardless of their background and upbringing.
As far as caring about an aborted child who had no say in whether they lived or died, damn straight I care. Working in a prison, I could give a rats ass less about some scum bag that opted to murder for drugs or money. In this country there are many, many options available to better your own life.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
…I’m the ‘hurricane molotov’ that got their man panties so far in a twist. I’m the supposed combat boot wearing southpaw that stirred up Meeeester Push so bad he couldn’t shut the fuck up about me for a week…
You stirred up Meeeester Push for one reason. You unilaterally attacked/cursed his wife for no reason even remotely related to the topic at hand at that time.
You’re not T-Nation’s Joan of Arc; you’re just a fat mouth who happens to also be dishonest for not including the context of why Meeeeester Push was stirred up.
If I were an internet sack of shit like you I would take this opportunity to attach and curse your kid(s) but I won’t/don’t do that kind of thing. To do so would expose me as someone like yourself who carries some very deep psychological flaws.
Again, you have earned no badge of courage for supposedly taking on the mighty Push; you will gain admiration from very few when they understand what you actually did.
You are not an intellectual giant, the T-Nation warrioress who doesn’t mind mixing it up with the boys, just a person who really does deserve contempt…and pity - for your mental illness.[/quote]
LOL- Do you realize you sound like the only loon at this point? Badges of courage? Joan of Arc? Give me a break, seriously. I think you’ve gotten a little too involved in a message board for your own good reacharoundharder.
That thread was about steroids that evolved into bashing the birth control pill, you listed the thoughts of women you spoke to about it, I said I don’t give a fuck about what the cunts you fuck think about the birth control pill. I still don’t. If you consider your wife a ‘cunt you fuck’ … that’s not my problem.
You are a grown man and act like a high school kid with your threats of how I will get no ‘admiration’ Lol…You’re so popular. le sigh Flexing your little muscles all over the place, campaigning for everyone to hold me in contempt…you sound like a lame character in a soap opera you idiot. Pull your head out and realize you don’t matter. You’re an overcompensating blowhard.
I wouldn’t suggest attacking my kid, at 10 years old he’s already brighter than you will ever be… you’ll get owned lol
Now quit throwing your toys out of the pram, put your crayons away and suck it up old man…not everybody gives a rats ass about you.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sloth wrote:
musicma1n1 wrote:
Can someone explain to me the logic in illegalizing abortions?
Because it’s the targeted killing of a completely innocent human life.
Of course, if one subscribes to the doctrine of Original Sin, then one must also believe that there is no such thing as a completely innocent human life. [/quote]
wow, a religious reason FOR abortion.
That’s a first!
[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Yeah, I didn’t get to finish all I had to say in that post because somebody here with me pushed submit before I was done. That would be my boyfriend. Not cool. I can’t just simply edit now because I’m moderated to hell and back. Good times. Whatever. Bring it.[/quote]
Try hitting him.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
snipeout wrote:
You are on the battlefield, 10 minutes until a bomb in an unknown area goes off and kills hundreds of innocent people. The only way to extract the where abouts is torture the terrorist in custody. What do you believe is right?
You’d have to be better than Klaus Barbie to get any valuable information out of anyone in less than ten minutes.[/quote]
Jack Bauer could do it.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
Sloth wrote:
musicma1n1 wrote:
Can someone explain to me the logic in illegalizing abortions?
Because it’s the targeted killing of a completely innocent human life.
Of course, if one subscribes to the doctrine of Original Sin, then one must also believe that there is no such thing as a completely innocent human life.
wow, a religious reason FOR abortion.
That’s a first![/quote]
If you try hard enough, you can find a religious reason for anything. “Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.”
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
In other words, for those who can’t see past metaphor, you care about aborted ‘children’, but you don’t care about them when they live and they suffer under your imposition, you don’t care when they end up in prison because they were born into poverty and saw no way out, and there was no way out because cunts like you made sure of it.
Nice. Very nice.[/quote]
Except it is complete and utter crap.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I’m not sure I’m qualified to have position on abortion, for the simple reason that I don’t happen to have a uterus. If I did, I might feel more strongly about the issue.
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That’s a pretty bad position to hold Varq. The Warren court that decided the case was all male. If you’re correct, they’d have to overturn Roe v. Wade on the grounds that none of the justices had uteruses (uteri? uteren? ).
That can’t be a prerequisite for having a position on abortion.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
I’m not sure I’m qualified to have position on abortion, for the simple reason that I don’t happen to have a uterus. If I did, I might feel more strongly about the issue.
That’s a pretty bad position to hold Varq. The Warren court that decided the case was all male. If you’re correct, they’d have to overturn Roe v. Wade on the grounds that none of the justices had uteruses (uteri? uteren? ).
That can’t be a prerequisite for having a position on abortion.[/quote]
Well, I also believe that someone who has never owned a gun, never used a gun, and doesn’t understand guns is unqualified to pass firearms legislation, or indeed to squawk about restricting or banning guns. Same principle.
Oh, and the plural of uterus is, as you surmised, uteri.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
I’m not sure I’m qualified to have position on abortion, for the simple reason that I don’t happen to have a uterus. If I did, I might feel more strongly about the issue.
That’s a pretty bad position to hold Varq. The Warren court that decided the case was all male. If you’re correct, they’d have to overturn Roe v. Wade on the grounds that none of the justices had uteruses (uteri? uteren? ).
That can’t be a prerequisite for having a position on abortion.
Well, I also believe that someone who has never owned a gun, never used a gun, and doesn’t understand guns is unqualified to pass firearms legislation, or indeed to squawk about restricting or banning guns. Same principle.[/quote]
Also nice. Both counts.