[quote]snipeout wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
snipeout wrote:
You are on the battlefield, 10 minutes until a bomb in an unknown area goes off and kills hundreds of innocent people. The only way to extract the where abouts is torture the terrorist in custody. What do you believe is right?
Torturing the guy so you can get a fake confession/faulty information/etc. etc. out of him, obviously.
Ask your boy McCain about that, he knows exactly how much real information you give up when you’re tortured… you can probably find his “confession” online somewhere.
(one of things I truly like about McCain is that he refuses to budge on that torture issue).
It was an anology I used to rebut the 5 yr old girl and the 10,000 embryo argument. The point I was trying to make was, that the finallity of an abortion is lost on people just because a baby doesn’t have a face or voice. I know by reading your posts where you stand as far a partial birth and later term.
The problem with alot of people is that until you have a baby you think of a 12 week fetus as an it or a thing. When you are going through the pregnancy you see the it is a baby and has a heartbeat, a body, limbs and developing organs.
Granted this organism can not survive outside his or her mother it doesn’t make the baby any less of a human being. No infant or toddler can survive with out its parents, does that mean that if the parents can’t handle the child they can give up and let him die?
If convicted killers have the right to live out the rest of their life on death row on our tax dollars why didn’t that aborted baby have the right to be born and supported on our tax dollars?
I again will state that my biggest problem with abortion is that a vast majority of the time it is used as emergency contraception.
As far as the torture debate, I don’t think any soldier of any countries formally established army should have to fear any form of torture. As for terrorists with no regard for hundreds of thousands of innocent human lives waging a jihad, if lives can be saved at the expense of that terrorist, do what needs to be done.[/quote]
Firstly, … FightinIrish,…rainjack only scares women who give a shit about the ‘friends’ they have gathered on this site. I am none of the above. I’ve stated my position on abortion and the pill. I’m the ‘hurricane molotov’ that got their man panties so far in a twist. I’m the supposed combat boot wearing southpaw that stirred up Meeeester Push so bad he couldn’t shut the fuck up about me for a week.
Here it comes again, some dick who thinks because I’m not against abortion I support mercy on the criminals that fill our prisons. So incredibly off the mark, it’s just barely funny. The reaching convenience, the shortsightedness of stupid men.
I could turn around and say now, that the very same ‘life’ advocates who shout their shallow hearts out about abortion, don’t give a godamn about the poor and suffering results, of a deafeningly sad cycle of poverty and crime. They only care when they are INSIDE of an underprivelaged mother, and once they scream their wanting to this world, they do us the deed of killing them with suffocation of GREED. They care not for the finished product of humanity, only for a mass of cells that holds no promise, and it holds no promise because there is none to be had… and there is none to be had, because of the very people that fight for the lives of the doomed. They rely on the lives of the doomed…to put them further higher, on their fake thrones of stinking shit. There is no real love,…NONE.
In other words, for those who can’t see past metaphor, you care about aborted ‘children’, but you don’t care about them when they live and they suffer under your imposition, you don’t care when they end up in prison because they were born into poverty and saw no way out, and there was no way out because cunts like you made sure of it.
I am not for late term abortions. At some point you must draw a line.